2009 Conference
 The Future of the EU... Can it Survive?
With the EU’s drive for power over our democracy and everyday life
continuing unabated the Bruges Group held this conference to oppose the
surrendering of our freedoms to Brussels
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Saturday, 21st November 2009 The Great Hall,
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Peter Davies, the Mayor of Doncaster, is
dedicated to slashing costs and ditching political correctness. He is the
first English Democrat to be elected to a key council position. His youngest
son, Philip, is the Conservative MP for Shipley. Peter Davies is a member of
the Campaign for an Independent Britain and talked on; The European Union
and British politics.
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Peter Davies
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Christopher Booker is a columnist for The
Sunday Telegraph. He is the author of the Bruges Group paper Britain
and Europe: The Culture of Deceit. And also co-wrote Scared To Death:
From BSE To Global Warming, Why Scares Are Costing Us The Earth.
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Richard Conquest is an economist, hedge fund
consultant and author whose research focuses on economic history, market
developments and crises. Richard has also authored a number of publications on
Eastern Europe and Russia. He has also served as the Chief Economist for a
number of City institutions.
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Professor Kenneth Minogue is a frequent
commentator for radio and television on European issues, he was Chairman of
the Bruges Group 1991-1993; he remains a member of the Group’s Academic
Advisory Council. Professor Minogue discussed how the EU does not allow for
powers to be returned to nation states.
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Bruno Waterfield has been Brussels correspondent
for The Daily Telegraph since December 2006. He has been reporting on
the EU and European affairs since 2000, first from Westminster and then from
January 2003 he has been based in Brussels. He is also a regular contributor
to www.spiked-online.com
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John Mills is the Secretary of the Labour
Euro-Safeguards Campaign and the Labour Economic Policy Group. He is also the
Chairman of one of the fastest growing companies in the UK, JML, which has
extensive trading relations with much of the world. John Mills is the author
of Europe’s Economic Dilemma.
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John Mills
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Ian Milne is the author of an analysis of the
net economic costs and benefits for the UK of EU membership, titled; A
Cost Too Far?. Ian Milne has had a forty-year career in industry and
merchant banking in the UK, France and Belgium. He is the author of the Bruges
Group publication; Lost Illusions: British Foreign Policy. Ian Milne
discussed, Who Needs the Single Market?
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Gerard Batten MEP is an expert on the costs of
EU membership. He is a member of the European Parliament’s Security & Defence
Committee, and is the UKIP spokesman on defence. Gerard Batten discussed the
issue of immigration.
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Gerard Batten
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Bruges Group. After working for the Westminster Group of Eight rebels, he
became adviser to three successive Shadow Foreign Secretaries. Lee Rotherham
has also served with the armed forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan. He has
been a Conservative Parliamentary candidate in the 2001 and 2005 elections. He
has widely written on European issues. He is the author of EMU
Understood and All At Sea; and co-authored the Bluffers
Guide to the EU. Lee talked on, Ten Years On — Britain without the
European Union.
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Speech by Peter Davies
Thank you Mr Chairman for inviting me to address this august body.
I may actually be a bit of a fraud this morning because I’m really not going
to talk about Europe very much, I think you’ve got plenty of people here who
know far more than I do and probably you know far more than I do, so I propose
to make a very short reference to two things that I observe about Europe and
then I’m going to talk about English politics and, dare I say it, finish off
with a little piece about Doncaster, which is a town you should all visit
quickly.
I don’t even know why I’ve been invited today, I’m sure you’ve heard every
conceivable argument about the European Union and I cannot think that I would
have anything to add to it. But we’ll just have a couple of words, these two
things that occur to me. They are very simple and I’m sure the two points have
occurred to you too.
Why have we joined the EU? Why have we thrown in our lot with
this particular group of people when we are the oldest democracy in the
Christian era? Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, all fascist states in my
lifetime; the Eastern European new states in the European Union, all under
communism for most of my life. France, until de Gaulle had no stable
Government. If a French Government lasted for a year it was a resounding
success. The Italians were little better. There is no history of parliamentary
democracy on the mainland of Europe yet we tamely and naively surrender our
own democracy to them. It is a complete and utter outrage.
Secondly, states in Eastern Europe escaping from the iron grip of the Soviet
Union. What do they do? So sad, so sad to watch, they wonder off into the new
iron grip of the European Soviet Union. Instead of being ruled by 15
unaccountable unelected people they are now ruled by 27 unelected people who
they can’t get rid of. The only difference it seems to me between the state of
the Eastern European states now and when they were under Soviet rule is the
Gulag, but that appears to be coming shortly. The European Union does not
tolerate descent.
So what can we do about all this? Well I think the solution is here in our own
country. We have a democratic deficit. Now you would expect me as an English
democrat to say what I’m going to say, but I mean it as an English patriot as
well as a political individual. We must withdraw support from the three main
political parties. There is not the proverbial cigarette paper between them,
they are all the same. The policies are interchangeable resulting in the end
of free speech, all fishing in the same pond for the same fish but the pond is
getting smaller. They are totally discredited at both national and local
level.
If you ever listen to Question Time or listen to any questions, a supposed
debate, we get the Liberal Democrat, the Member of the Government, the
apologies for the Government, sometimes not a member, some left wing academic,
the two Wills, Will Hutton and Will Self will say anything. And then they’ll
stick on a Conservative and guess who it might be? Ken Clarke or David Curry
the expenses king, and this is debate. And then occasionally, just as a sop,
Richard Littlejohn or Peter Hitchins might be allowed to be on the panel once
every ten weeks. The whole thing is a charade and I don’t know about you, I no
longer watch, I can’t be bothered, it’s a complete waste of time. But this is
what political debate has been reduced to in our country.
Now you all know that politicians are discredited, I’ve said it and you know
it. All snouts are in the trough both at national and local level. You all
know the national situation, in Doncaster we have 63 Councillors earning
£12,500 a year merely to attend eight Council meetings and to attend to one or
two complaints from their constituents. They get an extra £6,000 for chairing
a Committee which meets infrequently and if you’re lucky enough to be
appointed to the Police Committee or that sort of area of activity, you get an
extra £15,000 a year and there are other perks for them too. So not only do
the people out there dislike their national representatives, they dislike
their local representatives too. Local Government is equally a sham as well as
national Government.
You may have noticed again if we take the television process
covering these things, David Dimbleby, well he’s covering local elections,
jumping up and down in his seat, oh the Labour Party have taken control of x,
the Liberals have taken control of y, the Tories have snatched something from
the Liberals... what’s happened? What’s the result of all this? Answer:
nothing, no change, it doesn’t matter who’s in charge, the Council Tax goes up
and nobody takes a blind bit of notice of ordinary people. There are few
Councillors in any case with any real ability and most of them cannot cope
with local Government Officers.
So we’re in a pretty poor position. All three political parties are remote;
they exist in a cocoon completely out of touch with the views of ordinary
people. Patronising too and contemptuous of widely held beliefs. Let’s take a
few examples, capital punishment, the EU, law and order, prisons – prisons,
who dictates prison policy, not the people, the idiotic Howard League for
Penal Reform with about three supporters and two members. Immigration, Armed
Forces, the message is always the same, we know best, you can’t know, you
don’t have the evidence, your view is irrelevant, only our opinion counts, we
are professional politicians.
I listened last week to a ‘debate’ in Westminster Hall on capital punishment
between Stephen Pound Labour and Tony Baldry Conservative. First we had
Stephen Pound, a nauseating character and a nauseating speech, wittering on
about the fact that you couldn’t put somebody to death because they couldn’t
be redeemed, they needed the possibility of redemption and he went on about
this for about ten minutes. At not one point did he mention that the victim
had no chance whatever of redemption.
There followed Tony Baldry for the Tories and I couldn’t tell the difference,
if you closed your eyes you didn’t know where one had finished and the other
one had started and that is what we’re up against. For goodness sake
everybody, withdraw all support from these retched parties, they are useless.
Now on Thursday, to give an example of how the people are reacting, we had a
bi-election in a Ward in Doncaster, the Rossington Ward, an old pit village, a
Labour stronghold. Now the Labour Party won this election after they’d dragged
people out of their homes kicking and squealing I am told to go down to the
polling station by 85 votes from thankfully the English Democrats. But the
point I’d like to tell you – this is a rock solid Labour Ward in Doncaster,
the old Labour Party would have won this by about 2,000 votes – of the 10,000
population of Rossington 6.5% voted Labour on Thursday. That tells you
something about the way politics is viewed by ordinary people. Most of them
couldn’t be bothered to get out of their homes to vote its true, but the ones
who did voted either for us or for independent candidates.
Let me finish with a short piece about Doncaster because again I think there
are clues in what I’m trying to do in Doncaster for everybody else in the
country to get rid of these people, certainly at the local level and possibly
even at parliamentary level too.
Lots of people say well how the hell did you manage to win Doncaster against,
particularly the Labour Party, but against the other two main parties too. It
is true that I did not expect to win but the reason we did win is that we were
the only party to put forward a set of identifiable distinctive policies that
appealed to the electorate. The rest waffled. And again if you looked at the
Tory manifesto, the Labour manifesto and the Liberal Green Independent use all
three manifestos, again they are interchangeable, you couldn’t find a policy –
that was a sort of game I put to the electorate – show me a policy from the
other parties.
So we won because we put forward distinctive policies and people actually like
our national policies because lots of people are fed up of paying prescription
charges when they are free in Wales, they’re sick of paying tuition fees when
they’re free in Scotland, they’re sick of paying for care homes when part of
it is free in Scotland. We have a two-tier society; we have the Scots, the
Welsh and the Irish who get their own Parliaments and get all the goodies and
the English who pick up the bill.
So I’ll finish here with what have we done? What do the policies amount to in
Doncaster? I recommend these to all of you. I’m bragging for a start, I
reduced my salary from £73,000 to £30,000, no expenses, I haven’t claimed a
penny. I drive myself around the town in an old banger, I don’t like cars very
much and I travel second class by rail.
Do not swallow the universally accepted nostrum that the more you pay somebody
the better you get, it is not true. Look at the banks and the colossal amounts
of money that people have stolen there. Look at local Government Chief
Officers, most of whom – well I better be careful, this may be being recorded
– but most of whom you would find difficulty employing. I think what I would
say is that people committed to serving society, to serving the general
public, public service, are the people you want in positions like mayors or
leaders of Councils, you do not want the shysters who the more money they see
the more they want the job, MPs have been a good example of that, and you are
more likely to get people of quality and commitment if you pay less money. The
rest won’t be interested.
And before 1974 of course most people did my job for nothing and you got a
better service and better Councils and less Council Tax or Rates at the time.
Right what else have we done, I axed Doncaster News, Politics on the Rates.
This wretched thing came out every other month telling us how good the
previous Mayor was when everybody knew the opposite and they brought the next
copy to me with a blank for my mug shot and a piece about me and I said throw
that away in the bin, £67,000 saved.
We then got rid of the chauffeur-driven car; again I would have had no use for
it whatsoever. The chauffeur does tours of the Mansion House in Doncaster so
he wasn’t made redundant but the car was.
We’ve started – I’ve got to be careful again. Are the press in here? Are the
Daily Telegraph in or anybody? Any poison pens of that ilk? – we’re getting
slowly rid of translation services, which are divisive and unpopular with what
we loosely call the indigenous population. What I’m doing is setting up
English classes to promote community cohesion.
We’ve got two groups of people here, we’ve got some of the ethnic minorities
who’ve been in Doncaster about 40 years and some of them, believe it or not,
apparently can’t speak English and nobody seems to be bothered about that, in
fact the Diversity Officers seem to think that’s a good thing. Now I think
that is outrageous, what quality of life has somebody got living in England
who can’t speak English. You can’t watch a television programme, you can’t
listen to the radio, you can’t read a newspaper, you can’t talk to anybody in
the street, you can’t even go into a shop and order a bag of nuts or
something, its outrageous and it’s a disgrace that we sort of indulge this
sort of carry on.
The second lot are of course the Eastern Europeans who are wondering in
willy-nilly saying well right we’ve come for the jobs, we’ve come for the
benefits and while we’re at it you can translate the documents so that we can
get them. No thank you.
We’re also trying to end political correctness which infests our entire way of
life. Doncaster has been celebrating Gypsy and Roma Traveller Month, black
history month – that is racist. If I said white history month I’d be arrested.
Human rights day, nobody says whose human rights, certainly not mine, asylum
seeker and refugee week, international women’s day – no international men’s
day. Abolition of slave trade day as though that’s finished, its still going
on under the eyes of this Government in this country. These are on the way out
along with lots of other things with them and the Diversity Officers who
promote them.
Here’s something that might amuse the European sceptics; twin towns. Now I was
always of the opinion that twins were two, not in Doncaster, twins were six.
Six twins and they said the budget was £4,000, I tell you that that was a lie.
Somebody who was going to Gliwice in Poland to celebrate the 70th anniversary
of the beginning of the war this year, they didn’t go and I said next year
will be the 71st anniversary.
I got a letter, rather amusingly, from Dandong in China, another of our twin
towns. It said ‘Dear Mr Davies’ and then a load of Chinese and then a
signature. The trouble was I’d got rid of the translation services, but anyway
there was somebody around who could speak Mandarin Chinese and he translated
it for me. It said ‘I want to meet you by the side of the Yellow River’. So I
wrote back and said ‘I’m not coming to the Yellow River and I don’t want to
see you near the River Don, particularly since your treatment of Tibetan
Buddhists’.
We then got the Herten mob from Germany, these were the last ones. They came
for the St Leger, we put on £1,000 worth of hospitality for them – this is
before I appeared on the scene the decision was made – and they didn’t even
both to come on the day that the hospitality was provided, they said we’re not
coming that day, we’ll come another day, can we still go to the races, no.
And Wilmington in Carolina was another of these twin towns. I’m having
difficulty, I would have liked to have said they’ve all gone, that they have,
but the 63 Councillors are doing their level best to save them and so I’ve got
another two moves before they are finally finished. But it just shows you that
Councillors, this is the sort of thing they find important. The people of
Doncaster are all against twin towns anyway, the Councillors are in favour,
you couldn’t make it up.
I’ve got about 4,000 emails from all over the world; believe it or not I’ve
been invited to stand for President of America on a Davis/Palin ticket. But I
tell you what, even I couldn’t face that.
Gay Pride, another contentious affair. I was accused of all sorts of things, a
homophobe and is there a lesbianphobe I’m not sure. But anyway all I did was
say the Council will not spend money supporting Gay Pride. You can come to
Doncaster and have your celebration any time you like but I’m not paying
Council Tax money for the event, perfectly reasonable – total uproar. Anyway
it’s gone, well the march hasn’t gone but the money is not being spent and
I’ve weathered that particular storm. But it again shows you the priorities of
certain of our Councillors.
Now let’s go onto the Local Government Association. Now this is a
Conservative-fronted gang with a Chairman, a lady from Bradford is one of my
son’s constituents and he keeps saying to me be nice to Margaret Eaton, I find
it very difficult. Margaret Eaton is a Bradford Councillor, Chairman of the
Local Government Association. She earns £53,000 for being Chairman of the
Local Government Association and I say Doncaster is not footing that bill so
we are leaving the Local Government Association and the Local Government
Information Unit and another gang called something Yorkshire something or
other, I can’t remember what its called, but they are all going saving about
£100,000 and Margaret Eaton can find a way just from somewhere else. That’s
the same woman who was attacking quangos last week.
We proposed to reduce the number of Councillors from 63 to 21 saving £800,000
plus the cost of two elections in four years. There are nine Councillors in
Pittsburgh, a similar sized town to Doncaster, 17 in Philadelphia that has a
population of a million. Why we need 63 with a mayoral system I don’t know.
I have also found outrageously that Doncaster Council pays six full time Trade
Unionists to do no work for the Council and gives them office space, total
cost £270,000 and that apparently is going on all over the country. Look into
it in your own local authority.
We’ve got an alternative health service where people have got stress
counsellors, physiotherapists, something called manual handlers, I thought it
was a massage parlour, I was nipping up.
We’re after antisocial behaviour, foul language in public, littering the
streets, people being fined for this recently quite heavily and a Doncaster
pastime of spitting in the street, which seems to be a sort of Olympic sport
in Doncaster.
If I can briefly finish, Doncaster is going to benefit from this I promise. If
I finish on something rather more serious, I discovered when I became Mayor
that the output gap in Doncaster was £830 million minus; in other words the
difference between what Doncaster should earn and what it does earn. Well in a
very short space of time what we’ve found – this is incidentally as a result
of 35 years of malign socialist governance in the town – business confidence
in mid-July nationwide was minus 19%, in Doncaster it was plus 35% six weeks
after I was elected. It’s now running at plus 54% and Doncaster is running way
ahead of the rest of the country in business confidence.
This very week 6,600 jobs have been announced on major projects and I went to
a showcase yesterday in fact where 150 new businesses, successful businesses
were showing their wares. We have a thing in Doncaster called Success
Doncaster and that was behind this particular development.
So I tell you get your own councils thinking on these lines, get some
candidates, join the English Democrats by all means but if not do it through
other avenues.
Doncaster I hope we will make the premier town in the North of England, it’s
got the best place on the map. If you had a blank map of England Doncaster
would be the place, it’s got fast rail networks, its got roads criss-crossing,
its got an airport, its got access to the Humber Ports, it’s a terrific place
to be.
So the upshot of all this is, let’s get out of the EU but at the same time
Doncaster is open for business and going places.
Speech by Professor Kenneth Minogue
Obviously Peter Davies is the man we need to clean up local government and
sundry other forms of corruption which are disfiguring our lives. And like you
I abound in sympathy with him.
We all agree that the EU is a corrupt fraud into which we were betrayed by the
Heath Government and the sooner we get out of it the better. Britain gave up
its sovereignty unwisely. The essential point I think is that we are a common
law culture and we are steadily being assimilated into a Napoleonic legal and
administrative system.
Now we agree on all of these things but my concern today, and this is what I
propose to talk to you about for the next 20 minutes or so, is with the
broader question how did this dyer condition in which we find ourselves get
going? Is this part of a betrayal of a wider heritage of freedom?
You see it seems to me that our generation and I think you mostly
belong to it, have been simply appalling in declaring in the form of human
rights and all sorts of other moral commitments that we know what is
timelessly and eternally true and everybody ought to follow. So we have
declarations of rights from international bodies, we have the EU as an
institutional embodiment of that kind of thing. We have quite a large number
of international bodies which guide us on questions like refugee policy and
aid to foreign countries.
In other words what interests me is that we have, in the course of the period
from 1945 in which we had been fighting to keep ourselves free of alien
rulers, from 1945 onwards we seem to have accumulated an astonishing number of
them of which the European Union is no doubt the central roadblock here but
its by no means the only one.
And the point about it as far as I am basically concerned here is that it has
no reverse gear. In other words there is a constant stream of moral
commitments, administrative dictates, directives from the European Union and
so on but we are much less well informed as to how we might change any of
these if we were or if 27 nations were to agree that any one of these
directives were undesirable.
Again you see if you formulate the whole thing in terms of timeless universal
human rights, how the devil do you repeal a timeless universal human right?
Now you might well say of course that human rights ought not to be repealed,
they’re obviously a good thing. The point about human rights however is that
they are a sort of vulgar popularisation of the moral life that the Anglophone
societies have developed since Magna Carta and way back, that a conception of
the moral life in terms purely of rights in which duty, responsibility,
integrity, the virtues and so on are simply sidelined is obviously a gross and
inadequate caricature.
In other words we have a very large number of commitments which we seem to
have acquired because governments like noddy agree to be bound by them.
Usually of course it is done by a division of labour which is familiar, Mr
Davies talked about the death penalty, you can’t have the death penalty unless
you have a judge, a jury, lawyers, prisoners and perhaps an executioner, you
can’t have one person doing it.
Occasionally in other countries, Peter the Great sometimes carried out his own
executions but he was an eccentric. We cannot do it and the only way in which
we get ourselves lumbered by these commitments is if first governments sign up
to the abstract specification and then only later, as with the convention on
refugees for example, does it become clear what the circumstances changing
mean about the impact of that particular abstraction.
So the question is how we have got ourselves into this fairly appalling
situation. Well the orthodox answer is the world has become more globalised
and interconnected and above all it’s the complexity argument. Climate change,
global equity in economic affairs, international distribution of wealth,
regulation of finances, they are all frightfully complicated and therefore
they must be done at the higher intellectual level, the bureaucratic level
beyond selfish national interests. So the complexity argument is a most
powerful one.
But when people begin to talk about complexity and when they talk about
ethics, what we ought to be doing, what you should always be thinking about is
the correlative word ‘power’. What is happening to power as these particular
responses to complexity and to ethical demands are made? And the answer in
general is that there is a drift of power upwards towards an increasing number
of rulers and regulators under whom we live and of which the European Union is
our main example and possibly well and truly the most powerful one.
Occasionally we may suspect that problems are created purely for the advantage
that may be gained from taking them over and dealing with them.
Now these problems, the problem of complexity and some of the moral problems
are often perfectly genuine problems but nearly all of them lead to the
destruction of our responsibility for leading our own lives. We seem to have
blundered into a world in which authority with a capital A is everywhere
around and its not authority in what any philosopher would recognise as
authority.
But authority now can take our money and give us what authority regards as
benefits and in return it can demand that we obey them, that we eat and drink
what they think we ought to eat and drink, that we should choose our friends
on government’s dictated principles, they should be ethnically distributed for
example, that we should give up smoking, that we should according to one
Minister, read to our children at bedtime for at least ten minutes and so on.
Endless bits of advice and in some cases regulation come to us. And the point
is that these things come notionally from a democratic government but what we
have are a set of rulers who think that we are not worthy of them and who want
to make us worthy of them by telling us how we can improve ourselves.
The question I suppose is why we tolerate so much of this nonsense. And I
think the reason in part is that a lot of people have been persuaded that
obedience to alien bodies is actually a virtue, it is the decency of global
citizens overcoming nationalist partiality and triumphing over narrow
prejudices. It is I think of the essence of decline that feebleness can only
prosper by presenting itself as a kind of virtue.
But the blanket under which we live gets worse, there is also political
correctness, which as Mr Davies correctly fingered, is an important part of
the veil of control under which we live. The elite orthodoxy dominates our
thoughts and some of our lives and just as rights was a sort of grotesque
parody of the moral life, so political correctness is a grotesque parody of
good manners.
If it just means that we ought to behave decently to the individuals we
encounter whatever social category they belong to, then there’s no problem and
most of us I think do it instinctively anyway. If again it means that the
generalisations that we make about particular ethnic groups: Jews are clever,
blacks good at sport, East Africans have terrific lungs for running marathons
and so on, that all of these generalisations are pretty imperfect.
In the paper today there is an interesting footnote, which is that Channel 5
tried a newsreader that apparently had some sort of facial disfigurement as an
experiment. I have no problem with that, but the point of it was to challenge
some of our stereotypes. That is to say there is a sort of authority and a set
of media determiners living over us who want to improve us all the time even
removing the stereotypes we have. I quite like my stereotypes and I also
certainly know the limits of them but I think it’s an interesting question.
Much might be said about this question but recently the curtain of political
orthodoxy was interestingly lifted. Orthodoxy has been getting into a
frightful lather about the British National Party as a collection of nasty
xenophobes. Well this might well be true; I’ve never met any of them.
Orthodoxy affirms they must not be given the oxygen of publicity lest their
vile beliefs might arouse dreadful echoes in the population at large. So
called anti-fascist mobs, I mean they are the ones who call themselves
anti-fascists, turn up balancing the British National Party, so there is
always a sort of bit of media publicity. But it has turned out that the BNP
has achieved a certain success at the polls. This means that they must be
recognised as expressing on some subject or subjects, the opinions that quite
of lot of people actually have.
Orthodoxy, the political correctness orthodoxy, has long kept immigration out
of public dispute between the three parties but lo and behold the BNP gets a
few votes and this veil of political correctness slightly lifts and Gordon
Brown talks about immigration. It’s allowed gently into public discussion
without automatic cries of xenophobia and racism following.
My central point is that we have lost much of our freedom and autonomy not
only to the EU but also to other authorities and to powerful tendencies of
thought in our society. We have in fact become a servile people, ready to obey
and to be told what to do. And the question we might next ask is what is so
wrong about this? If we become more biddable to what benevolent figures would
like us to be, is that not a virtue.
The answer is I think that it destroys our capacity for enterprise and
certainly for independent thought. We have become a rather weepy society eager
to be told what to do. We have in other words become rather rigid and our
capacity for virtue, particularly for what Shirley Letwin once called the
vigorous virtues like self-control, courage, independence of mind, these
virtues are now shadowed by benevolence and goodwill of a politically correct
kind.
It’s significant that Europe is I think the only civilisation that is
unmistakably a civilization but never was brought under the aegis of one
single rule. It was for some purposes regulated by the Pope for a stage in the
Middle Ages, but that soon broke down and then every subsequent attempt by any
ruler to conquer the whole of Europe and to bring it into the form of one
empire, they all failed.
And it is significant I think that the vitality of our civilization has
depended upon a dialogue between the English and the French and the Germans
and the Italians and the Dutch and the Swedes and so on. It has been central,
we have often hated each other but we have also learned from each other. It is
only this softly, softly, catchy monkey EU which has succeeded in creating
something like an empire without the externals of conquest.
How is this new and servile status of the British people presented and
justified? The answer in most cases is that it is justified as part of the
important business of protecting the vulnerable, which these days constitute
the vast majority of British society. They include women, the poor, children,
gays, lesbians and transsexuals, ethnic minorities, immigrants, the working
class, the aged, those in care homes and no doubt many other categories yet to
be invented by opportunistic politicians.
This has transformed our conception of ourselves. In 1945 we regarded
ourselves as a society of free and enterprising individuals who had just
fought off a threat to reduce us to servitude by the Nazis. Today we have to
recognise ourselves as a society of the vulnerable and the vulnerable in a
whole variety of categories constitute I think almost the entire population
except white males in full employment.
Now the interesting thing about this vulnerability, the other side of it, is
that it tells us what a nasty society we are because why are women part of the
vulnerable? Well because of brutish men who beat them up in married
relationships. Why are children part of the vulnerable? Well they are part of
the vulnerable because vile paedophiles are preying upon them. Why are
homosexuals part of the vulnerable? Well because we’re so nasty that if
anybody has a different sexual preference we make trouble for them and so on.
In other words the interesting thing about all this talk about vulnerability
is that the other side of it is what a nasty lot we are and I think this
should always be very clearly taken onboard. We may wonder what has happened
to the Orwellian decencies which were celebrated in the first half of the
century when the crime rate was about a tenth of what it is now and the
Government was actually closing down prisons rather than having a crisis
because it can’t find enough of them. So we have ended up I think as the
objects of a set of bureaucratic processes and we are on a kind of slippery
slope.
The last observation I can make is simply to say that we have in a sense been
here before, but mind you we’ve been here before a long, long time ago. It was
the end of the Middle Ages and in the Middle Ages people didn’t make law they
believed that to have an identity was to be under the law. If you were a
Christian you were under Christian law, if you were a Muslim you were under
Muslim law and in England and in localities and so on you inherited laws.
Nobody made laws very much, occasionally there would be an inquest to find out
what the law might be and by the end of the Middle Ages Britain had in a sense
been stitched up with so many legal restrictions on property particularly, on
people that an enterprising generation began to want to find a way of getting
rid of some of these laws.
Now you might say why the devil did they not just ignore them and break them
and so on? And the answer to that is that European States were not despotisms
as in other civilizations where that would have been acceptable. What they had
to do at that time was to find an acceptable way of repealing laws, getting
rid of laws without actually violating them because they wanted to preserve
the rule of law. And the response at that time was the emergence of the
sovereign state; a sovereign was somebody who had this power to repeal laws.
This led on of course to absolutism in Europe and a certain amount of pretty
masterful government in England. Nonetheless even Henry VIII was a sovereign
power as King in Parliament and Parliament was of course to play a vital role
in developing the way in which this went. Hobbs became the great theorist of
sovereignty.
In other words this was a time when we responded to being as it were, stitched
up by so many regulations that we responded by creating a new institution, the
sovereign state and that’s precisely the thing we have lived by for hundreds
of years and which is now being subverted by the current generation of rather
servile people. I think we need the sovereign state back.
Speech by Ian Milne
Who Needs the Single Market?
In the beginning, in 1957, was the “Common Market”- broadly-speaking, the EC
Customs Union, an allegedly free internal market protected by high-ish customs
duties or tariffs.
On to this, in 1986, was grafted the Single European Act. This came into
effect in 1992 and superimposed on the Customs Union a costly,
tightly-regulated, allegedly harmonised internal market. The Social Chapter,
the Working Time Directive, Elf & Safety, Tax Harmonisation, the current
breaking-up of British banks & now the regulation of all the City’s financial
markets are part of the pursuit of the Single Market.
For
50 years, British politicians have justified EU membership on the grounds that
it’s vital for our trade. Remember the phrase “Common Market” ? That’s what
MacMillan & Heath told us we were joining in the 60s & 70s. That’s what the
Yes camp told us the 1975 referendum was all about. And, though she may
bitterly regret it now, Mrs Thatcher, believing – wrongly – it would increase
British exports to the EU - allowed a huge increase in majority voting in
1986 with the Single European Act. Heseltine & Clarke told us the EU was all
about trade in the 90s and early 2000s. And, to the extent that anyone –
including the Conservatives themselves - knows why they think we’re in the EU,
it seems to be because of trade. Or saving the polar bears. Or something.
Can all these Prime Ministers & politicians have got it right ? Or is it all
bunkum ? Let me give you seven facts about our trade with the world which
should help us to answer that question: are the politicians right, or is it
all bunkum ?
FIRST, the Customs Union. Back in the 60s, with high-ish
tariffs (i.e. customs duties) worldwide, customs unions seemed to make sense.
Now, tariffs are low. Over 90 per cent of British imports are now
tariff-free, and what tariffs remain are very low. Tariffs are only charged
on trade in goods; they’re not charged at all on trade in services or income.
And trade in goods is only around half of total trade, the rest being in
tariff-free services & income. What’s more, the cost of collecting those low
tariffs on goods is greater than the amount of tariff actually collected. In
other words, Customs Unions have lost their raison d’être: they’re
redundant.
The Europeans haven’t noticed, but non-Europeans certainly have
noticed, which is why, outside the EU, there are simply no significant customs
unions at all anywhere in the world – full stop.
SECOND, the cost of belonging to the Single Market. If, as
politicians claim, we’re in the EU because of trade, then it must follow that
the hidden costs of exporting to the EU are absolutely colossal. If you just
take the sterling amount of our net contribution to the EU, and divide it by
the sterling value of our goods exports to the EU, the hidden tariff is 4.8
per cent. If you take our gross contribution, it’s 11.6 per cent. And if you
include the non-budgetary costs of EU membership, which dwarf even the
budgetary costs, the hidden tariff ranges from 40 per cent of our goods
exports to an even more staggering 80 per cent. What that means, ladies &
gentlemen, is that for every ten pounds of goods we export to the EU, British
taxpayers pay on top a hidden tariff of up to eight pounds.
Incidentally, it may not be a coincidence that under Gordon Brown’s heroic
stewardship of the British economy, we are sliding down the EU Prosperity
Rankings. In 2004, measured by GDP per head, we were 5th; in 2008, we were
eleventh, and in 2009 we’ll be even lower.
THIRD, the trade deficit. We have a massive structural trade
deficit with the EU. In other words they sell far more to us than we sell to
them. But we trade with the rest of the world in balance: our imports are
more or less covered by our exports. In just the last 5 years, 93 per cent of
our alarming trade deficit with the whole world has been accounted for by the
EU. In 2008 we were in deficit with 17 of our 26 EU partners. Cumulatively
over those 5 years our deficit with the EU was £153 bn; with the Rest of the
World it was £ 11 bn.
The consequence of this massive deficit with the EU is jobs; huge numbers of
British jobs being exported over the Channel. Ruth Lea, the highly-respected
economist, has estimated that the result of this deficit is an extra two
million or so jobs, many of them highly-skilled, in Germany, France & other EU
countries, that might have remained in this country were it not for the
deficit. That is a huge number in the context of our own unemployment rate.
Another distinguished economist, Patrick Minford, reckons that for the UK,
being in the Single Market does for her industry what the CAP does for our
agriculture: in other words, there is a causal connection between
membership of the Single Market & the trade deficit.
FOURTH; Over 90 per cent of the British economy
is NOT involved in exports to the EU. Putting it another way: exports to the
EU account for less than ten per cent of British economic output. Within the
90 per cent not involved in exports to the EU, over ten per cent is involved
in exporting to the Rest of the World. The remaining roughly 80 per cent is
down to us British residents trading with each other; and yet that 80 per cent
still has to impose on its activities the whole of the hugely costly Single
Market legislation and regulation.
FIFTH; British exports to the world OUTSIDE the EU are
growing far faster than British exports TO the EU – in fact 37 per cent faster
since the turn of the century. And here’s the funny thing – we don’t belong
to any so-called Single Market outside the EU.
SIXTH; at present, less than half our exports go the EU –
roughly 40 per cent. And because of the faster rate of growth of our exports
OUTSIDE the EU, by, say, 2020, the split of our worldwide trade will be
something like two-thirds outside the EU, one third to the EU. Talk about the
tail wagging the dog; or of putting all our eggs in the wrong basket.
SEVENTH; Guess what? You don’t even have to belong to
the Single Market to export to the Single Market. The USA, not an EU
member, with zero votes in the EU Council of Ministers, having to export to
the EU over the EU tariff barrier, sells more to the EU than we do, without
paying a cent to Brussels or imposing one iota of EU regulation on its
domestic economy. China’s not far behind, and it too has zero votes in the EU
Council of Ministers. Closer to home, Norway & Switzerland, not EU members,
export far more in relation to their GDPs or populations than the UK.
So there’s the evidence. Let me summarise.
- Customs unions have lost their raison d’être: they’re redundant.
- The costs of belonging to the Single Market are simply colossal.
- Our massive trade deficit with the EU. Coincidence ? No way.
- Over 90 per cent of the British economy is not involved in exporting to
the EU, & that proportion’s growing.
- The huge differential in the rates of growth of our exports outside the EU
and to the EU: around 40 per cent faster outside.
- The split of our worldwide exports between countries outside the EU & to
the EU itself: 60/40 now, soon to be 70/30.
- You don’t have to belong to the Single Market to export to the Single
Market.
I
asked at the beginning whether politicians had got the Single Market right, or
whether it was all bunkum. I have no doubt whatsoever what the answer is:
Bunkum. As an international businessman, I believe – as I’ve
believed for decades – that we don’t need the Single Market. I believe we
should leave the EU & the Single Market. Wimpish British politicians say we’d
be discriminated against. That too is utter bunkum. On UK withdrawal, would
the rest of the EU discriminate against UK exports ? Of course not: they have
far too much to lose. They sell far more to us and in any case it would be
illegal under the rules of the World Trade Organisation.
Wimpish British politicians also claim that, outside the EU, the UK would
“lose influence” in the Council of Ministers. Well, at present, as a result of
37 years of swallowing successive treaties, UK influence in EU deliberations
has shrunk to a measly 8 per cent. That is our vote in the key EU
decision-making body, the Council of Ministers. What’s the difference between
8 per cent and zero per cent ? Damn all. In practice, 8 per cent and zero
per cent are the same. Outside the EU, would we “lose influence” with the
Single Market ? No. There’s no influence to lose. Would it matter ? No. The
proof ? The US has zero votes in the Council of Ministers but still manages
to out-export the UK to the EU.
Could we afford to leave the EU, which accounts for roughly 40 per
cent (soon to be 30 per cent) of our worldwide trade ?
That’s the wrong question. The right question is as follows. Can we afford
to have 40 per cent (soon to be 30 per cent) of our worldwide exports going to
the most highly-regulated & lowest-growth continent on the planet: the EU ?
Can we afford to have 40 per cent (soon to be 30 per cent) going to a
continent which is costing us an arm and a leg to belong to ? Can we afford
to have 40 per cent (soon to be 30 per cent) of our worldwide exports going to
a continent which will soon account for less than 5 per cent of world
population ? To the only continent on earth whose population will not just
have aged significantly but declined absolutely by 2050 ? The answer is
surely: No.
Speech by Christopher Booker
It’s lovely to be here, there’s a lovely atmosphere about these
conferences. Although I arrived late coming up from the West Country I’ve met
already at least 10 or 15 old friends and one of them said to me she’d been to
three Fabian Society conferences and she said the contrast, it was absolutely
stifling and the nice thing about this conference is that people are telling
jokes to each other. You don’t get much of that at a Fabian Society conference
and I bet there aren’t going to be too many jokes at Copenhagen when they meet
next month.
I
just want to say one final thing because I was really terrifically taken when
I walked in and saw this – I don’t know what’s behind it – you gave it
applause quite rightly because its quite a mark of the Bruges Group, I wont
say coming in from the cold, but you know what I mean, the august Daily and
Sunday Telegraph and I would like to say what a pleasure it is for me to meet
Bruno Waterfield, who I’ve never met, we’ve talked on the telephone, we’ve
exchanged emails. I read regularly of course and admire his stuff, he is the
best Daily Telegraph Correspondent in Brussels that the Daily Telegraph has
ever had. And if I tell you that one of his predecessors was Boris Johnson,
I’m sure you know what I mean.
The timing of this meeting is impeccable because as we all know there are two
great historic events due in the next few weeks. The first, which we’ve all
been looking forward to for so long, is the moment when the European
constitution finally comes into force, bless it. And the other one that I have
already referred to is the Copenhagen Conference on Climate Change.
Now the first sign that we’ve been given through the media in the last couple
of days of what this new constitution is going to mean for us all is of course
the fact that it is finally revealed to us the identities of the great
President of the European Council and the even greater High
Representative/Foreign Minister, this lady that nobody until two days ago had
ever heard of except people working in the Health Authorities in
Hertfordshire.
There was an odd thing of course, for months and possibly for years – no
definitely for years – we’ve been told that the whole point of the European
Union having a President, a permanent President of the Council, was that he
was going to be some great world figure who could stride the world stage on a
level with the President of the United States and so forth. And then suddenly
something funny happened. After we’d been told you know it might be Tony Blair
– I mean let’s face it he’s the nearest thing to a world statesman that we’ve
got in Europe and he is definitely the man – and then suddenly something
happened and we were told oh no, no we don’t want some kind of celeb who’s
going to stride around the world, what we want is a safe pair of hands, we
want someone who’s a Chairman for the Parish Council, basically that’s all we
need, a quiet man and so we have got Mr Van Rompuy.
Bruno will now tell us – as someone who lives in Brussels for his sins or
rather for a certain amount of money from the Daily Telegraph –
authoritatively how we should pronounce Van Rompuy. I know that the BBC
pronunciation unit must have been working overtime and you could hear Sarah
Montague really trying to get it right and she certainly didn’t do it as well
as Bruno.
But it reminded me of the days years ago during the Maastricht Treaty when
that was in the news every day and the Today programme was saying what a
wonderful thing it was. The BBC, the pronunciation unit had obviously given
out instructions that they were all to pronounce it ‘Maastreect’. So dear old
Sue ‘McGhastly’ as we used to call her in Private Eye, what was she called,
Sue McGregor, every day week after week we’d hear going on about ‘Maastreect’.
And I remember watching a Panorama programme about the same time and it was
shot in Maastricht and they were interviewing people in a café in the town
where the Treaty was signed or negotiated and all the citizens of that town
called it Maastricht and there was Sue McGregor ‘Maastreect’.
Anyway, enough of Maastricht, we’re dealing with Mr Rompuy or Mr ‘Rumpy’. Yeah
I’m afraid we’re all going to make jokes about Mr Rompuy, I’ve been doing it
for weeks already and it’s tasteless and it’s vulgar and we must slap
ourselves down for it.
But we must not underestimate Mr Rompuy, as I think Bruno is going to enlarge
on later, but I am going to talk a little bit about him. Bruno actually knows
much more about him than I do because he’s seen him at first hand. But it is
no accident that Mr Rompuy was the preferred candidate of the European
Commission and indeed of France and Germany for the job of President of the
European Council because although he is obviously totally obscure to the rest
of us in the outside world, our friend Rompuy is by all accounts of those who
know him, a pretty clever and very ruthless political operator.
There’s a famous story of how once – when he was engaged in one
of those life or death battles that they have in Belgium politics where they
all love each other so much – he saw a very tense meeting was due to take
place so Mr Rompuy changed the locks on the room so that the MPs who were his
opponents couldn’t get in. And by this kind of device and others he won his
battle as indeed he has won quite a few during his rather strange political
career.
Now not the least reason why brother Rompuy was the candidate of the
Commission and France and Germany, but particularly of the Commission in
rising to the top of this selection process that we’ve all admired so much for
its democratic content. The reason why he was such a favourite candidate is
that he is of course, as we’ve been learning over the last two days, a very
passionate believer in the political integration of the European Union. In
fact he has already been identified with one phrase, what does he stand for?
He stands for ‘more Europe’. And he has given us some clues as to what his
‘more Europe’ consists of such as EU identity cards and EU licence plates on
cars and more singing of the EU anthem and more waving of the European flag
and more EU sporting events.
Now those of us – and I think there are probably quite a few in this room who
are familiar with the history of this strange thing, the European Project –
will think that all this has a leadenly familiar sound because they’ll
remember way back in the 1980s there was a chap called Adonnino who produced a
report which was adopted by the European Council in 1985. And the purpose of
Adonnino’s report was to suggest ways in which we could promote a greater
sense of European identity among the citizens, that’s all of us.
And what was on Adonnino’s list? Well the flag, the anthem, registration
plates of cars, EU teams in sport – exactly what Rompuy is saying today – and
in other words it’s the same old list that we’ve had kicking around for the
last 25 years. We had EU passports – that was the very first of them actually
– EU identity cards, all these things have been talked about for so long. More
Europe in schools, that’s going to be a very interesting one, we’ve already
got quite a lot. More Europe in everything in short and this is the only tune
really ultimately that they all like to sing.
When Richard North and I were writing that book, which was referred to
earlier, The Great Deception, which I dare to say is still the most
comprehensively researched account of how the European Project has developed
over the decades yet published – one of the things which struck us was that
the more you look at the history of this thing, the more you realise that
there’s only ever been one core agenda to every single thing it has done. Its
only intention right from the start has been to create more Europe. It doesn’t
matter what they’re doing, directives, regulations on fishing, you know all
the million and one things that they put their hands to and of course all the
treaties. But everything ultimately is all centred around that one purpose
which is to extend the power of the new central authority and to eliminate the
sense of national identity, undermine the power of nation states of course,
suck away the power of national parliaments, marginalise the power of national
electorates, all of this has got to be replaced with the new European
identity, new European institutions run by this new strange super national
form of Government, which is like nothing the world has ever seen before, and
is of course ultimately accountable to no one but itself.
Now if that’s been the purpose of all these things, what was its goal? We were
never told what it was all going to be ultimately about but of course we’ve
seen more and more, as more and more of it has been put together, we have seen
that the aim is to create what is in effect a country called Europe with a
Government called Europe with its own currency, its own judicial system, its
own armed forces, all the attributes of a state, a new super power to step out
onto the world stage in its own right. And of course the ultimate goal, it’s a
symbol of all this, all this toiling away for 50/60 years, the ultimate prize
which was to symbolise what they’d achieved was to have that constitution,
which is why for nearly eight years they toiled away, they negotiated away,
they went through every kind of contortion, they ultimately even had to change
its name, oh dear they had to call it the Lisbon Treaty but that’s what they
wanted, they wanted a constitution because it was the ultimate symbol that
they had the as it were – not super state, I try to avoid that word – but they
had the super Government.
The whole point about it is its very hard to define because it’s never been
done before and I hope it will never be done again in the history of the
world, but what they’ve created in a sense of course is a new country, what
Jean Monnet used to call all those years ago, the United States of Europe. And
of course in the end they had to ram it through without doing that thing,
which is the last thing they ever want to do, which is to consult the wishes
of the peoples, apart from the Irish who were told to do it twice as we know.
Now they have got at last the man who for a long time we were told was going
to be the figurehead symbolising this moment when the constitution comes into
play and we have a President, someone we can all look up to and that all the
world can see represents Europe. And it was going to be of course that world
statesman Mr Blair in some people’s minds, particularly his. Gosh didn’t he
look disappointed yesterday, it was so funny seeing him getting into that car.
But little Mr Rompuy is the man we’ve got and he’s fine, because although he
is a zombie he is actually a pretty clever zombie and he has been programmed
to say the only thing which matters to them all which is ‘more Europe’, so
that’s what its all about.
But there is still one enormously important power which most self-respecting
Governments take for granted, which the European Union has not got. Can you
guess what that is, exactly; the power to levy direct taxes. Now how can you
be a Government without the power to levy taxes, I mean they’ve got all sorts
of indirect taxes, bits of VAT and so on but what they haven’t got is the
power to say we’re going to have taxes which we take money out of your pocket
as citizens of the EU and put it into our pockets as the EU itself, as
Brussels.
So guess what is top of Mr Rompuy’s wish list when he arrives in Brussels.
Yes, you’re quite right, you’ve guessed it; he believes its time for Europe to
be given the power to levy its own taxes. And guess what is Mr Rompuy’s excuse
for doing this, for levying these taxes, yes you’ve guessed it, I’m sure most
of you have guessed it or know it, everything our Government does – the EU
Government he suggests – should be funded by green taxes levied on fuel, on
transport, on airline travel, on almost everything we do including breathing
out CO2. And all of that of course is to be done in the wonderful noble cause
– who could object to it – of saving the planet from that runaway global
warming which in recent weeks had in America and China and several other parts
of the world been dumping record falls of snow.
Hey you’ve got my book; I have to hold up this book now. I’m sorry this is
shameless but no it is relevant because it’s what I want to talk about now
because it is very relevant to what is happening in the EU. This book, The
Real Global Warming Disaster, which I have just published, tries to tell
the history. There are lots of books about global warming, this is the first
one I think which has really tried to say how on earth did we get to this
extraordinary situation we’re in today where it has sneaked up to the top of
the whole of the world’s political agenda as if it’s the only thing that
matters and yet, and yet... well we’ll get onto the ‘and yets’ because as we
all know there are huge massive question marks over this extraordinary
phenomenon.
Now one of the things that strikes you when you look at the political history
I mean with scientists to start with – and they became rapidly quite political
scientists and there were only very few of them back in the 80s who got this
thing really going. Then some politicians jumped on the bandwagon,
particularly Al Gore in the United States, but the first Government which saw
right away that this was an absolutely ideal cause for it to champion way back
in 1991 was what in those days was still called the European Community. It was
only the following couple of years later it became the European Union. But
they realised that this was the absolutely superb cause, it was everything
that the EU to be could want because what could be more noble than saving the
planet – its international, the environment doesn’t stop at frontiers.
All the arguments we heard, the EU wanted to jump on the environmental
bandwagon, the global warming bandwagon right at the start because really it
was just another example of what had always been their agenda in everything it
did, it was more Europe. It would give an absolutely amazing excuse for all
sorts of new laws and regulations and powers and all being done in the name of
this one altruistic wonderful cause of saving the planet and nobody could
possibly object to it.
So in 1991 they laid out the template for how they were going to do this all
that time ago, we’re talking about nearly 20 years ago. It’s a long document
which I describe of course in the book, where they lay out how they’re going
to go for renewable energy as opposed to fossil fuels, they’re going to go for
recycling waste, they’re going to go for improving the energy efficiency in
homes – lots of double glazing and all that. All this was being laid out back
in 1991. And in 1992, guess what, they produced another document which laid
out the proposals, which was adopted by the Council of Ministers, another
document proposing that there should be an EU-wide carbon tax, a carbon tax on
everything where CO2 had to be emitted so all that was happening as I say
nearly two decades ago.
And actually what they had in mind was a power grab, which really in some ways
made the single market and the single currency, which were the two other great
power grabs of the 1990s, it really made them look like child’s play because
the environment and global warming there is just literally nothing that you
can’t get your tentacles into if that is the cause which justifies what you’re
doing.
And that’s why we’ve seen over the last 18 years climate change rising ever
higher up the EU’s agenda, that’s why we’ve seen our leaders so carried away
by the cause that they want to see our countryside covered in windmills, those
thousands of highly subsidised windmills which produce amounts of electricity
which are absolutely derisory, that’s why they want to see cars driving on
biofuels which actually provide less energy than it costs to make them, that’s
why they want to take the lead in setting up the world’s first Carbon
Emissions Trading Scheme, which will eventually double our fuel bills without
making the slightest difference to the amount of CO2 that the human race emits
into the atmosphere, that’s why they’re asking us – well not asking us, they
are forcing us – to use those nasty inefficient mercury-filled light bulbs
which are so popular, which produce absolutely virtually – not absolutely but
virtually – no savings in energy use and that’s why they’ve been forcing us to
pay for those wholly pointless – not directly them, but our Government as
usual obeying the orders of the real Government over there in Brussels –
that’s why they couldn’t abolish those ludicrous home information packs, which
anyone who had anything to do with property knew were a complete waste of time
but the fact is that we had to keep on with them because they’ve got that
energy efficiency certificate thing built into it which is a requirement of a
European Union directive.
Coal fired power stations; all the lights in this room are being kept on by
coal fired power stations. We’re going to run out of coal fired power stations
quite soon, we’re going to lose 40% of all our energy supply in the next ten
years. And what we really would like to be able to do is to build more coal
fired power stations: clean nice scrubbers remove all the filthy sulphur
dioxide and so forth, but we’ve got to pay out billions of pounds to the
supply companies. They are allowed to build these – some of them anyway – but
only if they find a way of taking away all the CO2 and putting in a pipe and
taking it off into the North Sea and burying it in a hole in the ground, which
is a wonderful practical thing to do and is going to cost us as I say billions
and billions of pounds. The latest bill from Ed Miliband is 9.5 billion,
that’s just for four of them and that’s not going to keep the lights on. But
its going to double the cost of electricity from coal fired power stations but
what the hell, I mean you know its just money isn’t it that we pay, not Ed
Miliband.
So as I describe in my book, we are actually at this moment at a very
interesting point in the story – and by the story I mean the story of global
warming – because at just this moment where we are being told in every
direction of these absolutely colossal bills we’re all going to have to pay. I
mean electricity is not going to be doubled; it’s going to cost ten times as
much if they get their way with all the measures they’re proposing.
Did you see Adair Turner was it the other day proposing £3,300 tax on every
new car? It just keeps on going; I mean they’re just pouring out of the
woodwork in every direction. But at this very same time just as we’re facing
bills, the International Energy Authority did estimate last year that all the
measures being currently proposed were going to add up – this is for the human
race, not just for Britain – to $45 trillion. $45 trillion, that’s two thirds
of all the annual GDP in the world.
Actually, if you look at what they’re proposing, if you look at dear old Ed
Miliband’s Climate Change Act, which is now the law of Britain, which was
passed by our Parliament or by the House of Commons third reading. 463 MPs
voted for it, only three voted against it. The Climate Change Act requires
this country to cut its CO2 emissions by well over 80% over the next 40 years.
Now quite a lot of us in this room, certainly including me, won’t alas be here
to see it, but the fact is that the only way you could conceivably do that,
cut CO2 emissions on that scale at the moment is by closing down pretty well
every form of economic activity that’s going on in this country. There is no
other way to do it.
I mean cars – forget them, trains – forget them, aeroplanes – forget them,
electric lights – forget them, factories – forget them, computers – forget
them. Everything we do now is dependent upon computers: hole in the wall, you
know just everything: Tesco. There just isn’t going to be, if that Act which
was supported by 463 of our gifted and respected politicians, who we’ve all
come to respect even more in recent months as we learn what they’ve actually
been getting up to instead of getting on with taking sensible decisions about
the running of our country, the contempt which the British people now feel for
their political class is absolutely fathomless isn’t it. You all know that and
you could go to any street in the country, north, south, east, west and you
would find people saying the same things.
And part of the reason for that, a very important part of the reason why they
have so completely degraded themselves is because they’ve increasingly not had
a proper job to do because they’ve been shovelling more and more of what we
originally thought we were electing them to do in terms of their powers,
shovelling it away to people who are not sitting in Westminster although some
of them are sitting in Whitehall. Because let us never forget, the European
Union is not a conspiracy by foreigners against Britain, it is a conspiracy by
the political class against the citizens.
Copenhagen in two/three weeks time, 20,000 politicians, officials,
environmental activists paid for by taxpayers, Friends of the Earth,
Greenpeace, they will all be there in their thousands and the media, the
compliant media. The Sunday Telegraph won’t be there in the shape of
me I don’t think but I bet The Daily Telegraph will be.
This is a secret, I don’t want Bruno to be listening here, but have you
noticed how odd it is that The Sunday Telegraph allows me – and I’m
very grateful for it – to write week after week very sceptical articles about
global warming. Then you turn to The Daily Telegraph and something
very odd has happened to that paper on this subject and I’ve asked
occasionally, can you explain why it is that we have Mr Geoffrey Lean writing
half pages every week, sometimes two, why Miss Louise Gray every day is
recycling some Friends of the Earth press release telling us sea levels are
going to rise by 100 feet or that all the butterflies will be extinct. All
this hysteria that they’ve been whipping up for Copenhagen – when I say they I
mean the organisers and the whole sort of warmist lobby – but the Daily
Telegraph for some extraordinary reason has decided to go along with it just
at the point where the whole thing is falling apart.
That is so weird, in journalistic terms, I mean by all means back a horse when
you think its going to win the race but just at the point when the whole
climate change fraud is being exposed as never before, where the temperatures
are sloping down.
The point I was making to someone earlier, the ultimate point about what is
wrong, why the whole climate change global warming hysteria is suddenly
hitting the buffers, we can’t any of us, nobody knows what is actually going
to happen to world temperatures over the next 100 years, certainly the
warmists don’t know, nobody knows.
But what we do know, we know one terribly important thing and this is
absolutely the key to everything that’s going on at the moment, is that the
case for global warming, which has been bought hook, line and sinker by pretty
well every politician in the western world not to mention The Daily
Telegraph, the whole of that case rests on one thing, it rests on the
predictions of computer models, very, very expensive super computers costing
anything up to £3 million each. And they feed their data into the
intergovernmental panel on climate change, which actually we’re told it
consists of 2,500 top climate scientists. Actually it consists of, if you peel
away all the people who aren’t scientists and certainly aren’t climate
scientists, you ultimately get down to about 50 people who all know each
other, work with each other and who are being currently exposed by this
wonderful leak of hundreds and hundreds of documents from the University of
East Anglia, the Climate Research Unit. Which has been hilarious if it wasn’t
so serious because there you have finally confirmed, what a lot of us who have
been following this story have been suspecting for a long time, is that you’ve
got basically a very small number of people who know each other, Americans and
Britons, they are the people who drive the IPCC, who write its reports, and
they have been deliberately – and this is what these emails confirm –
deliberately fiddling the evidence.
We guessed that they were; we could see quite a lot of evidence that they
were. What we didn’t see until now was emails from one of them to another
saying we’ve got to tinker around with these figures, we’ve got to make the
temperatures look as if they’re going higher than they are. I haven’t written
about it yet but its going to be written about and heard about an awful lot
between now and Copenhagen.
Now it begins to look, as we know the whole point about Copenhagen is that
everyone ultimately has got to agree – not just the EU and the Americans and
the Australians, but the Chinese and the Indians and the Brazilians and the
Russians and everybody – and its quite obvious even the organisers are now
admitting that Copenhagen is going to fail in its most important goal which
was to set fixed targets. Everybody’s got to do what Britain is doing and say
we’re going to cut our CO2 by such and such a figure. It’s simply not going to
happen. The Chinese and the Indians and the Brazilians are all saying, listen
we’ve got to catch up with you guys in the west, we’re certainly not going to
cut our emissions although we might be prepared to consider it if you pay us
hundreds of billions of dollars a year, that’s what its all about and that’s
why the thing is not going to reach agreement.
So actually even Mr Obama, even the great saintly President of the US is not
going to be able to go to Copenhagen and say I can deliver because the Senate
is refusing at the moment to pass the Cap-and-Trade Bill. So guess which is
going to be the only Government in the world which is going to go to
Copenhagen saying whatever you ask us to give, all those hundreds of billions
of dollars, we will empty our pockets and not only that, we will cut our own
emissions by such a savage amount that we wont have an economy left to make
the money that will enable us to pay it to you.
That Government is the one of which Mr Rompuy has just become the President
and how appropriate it is that at just the moment where the great European
constitution that they worked for and craved for so long, eight years they
took to get that thing onto the table, at just the moment where it comes into
force, where Mr Rompuy is elevated to the top of it we are looking at a very
strange situation where Mr Rompuy is proposing this carbon tax to solve a
problem which never actually existed and he dreams that that is going to be
the next stage of more Europe.
And at just the point where the whole climate change/global warming fantasy is
beginning to leak out steam like a balloon losing its force – we’re going to
hear an awful lot more about it over the next few years – but basically it has
crested and it is on the way down. And at just that point how appropriate it
is that the European Union should at last enter onto the world stage with a
constitution and a President, Mr Europe; Mr Rompuy you couldn’t have come at a
better time.
But I will say this, my final word, confronted with such a farce, such a
degrading spectacle as we have all been witnessing for far too long, isn’t it
time that the British people began to learn how to recover our
self-respect.
Speech by Bruno Waterfield
I would like to thank the Bruges Group for inviting me speak here today.
I’m not really a member of your tribe and I’m not really here to issue any
comfort blankets; I’m probably from a different tradition. One of the reasons
why I value Christopher’s work so much is its essentially contrarian, it’s a
contrarian very liberal tradition I would say so I hope in that tradition of
being contrarian you will be tolerant when I say things that perhaps you may
find uncomfortable.
What I really want to do is review what I see as one of the most significant
developments in the evolution of the European Union and its political
expression. When I was coming in on the bus to Central London this morning I
was just thinking about how yesterday morning, on Friday morning, lots of
little functionaries and bureaucrats all across the land must have woken up
with a little smile on their face; I mean Catherine Ashton it could be you.
Here we have a woman who has moved from one quango appointee to
another to another. She started off in Hertfordshire Health Authority, she
moved to the House of Lords, probably the biggest quango in Britain, then to
the European Commission and now to a newly created post of High Representative
for Foreign Affairs. There’s a hope for every bureaucrat, every backroom
pen-pusher, maybe the EU lottery wheel will turn for them next.
And this is the kind of alchemy of the European Union; its kind of special
magic in a way is to take the very base matter of somebody like Lady Ashton
and to create her into a figure on the world stage. And of course to make this
incredible miraculous journey she has never had to go through the trouble of
facing an election to public office.
I’m not really going to talk about our friend Herman because Christopher has
dealt with him I feel. I want to focus just a little bit on the Ashton case in
my opening remarks because it’s a very, very significant event. By appointing
Ashton to a post in the Council, one of the two most powerful posts in the EU,
the EU has dropped one of its most important conventions and one of the most
important conventions and part of the whole mystique of the Council, which is
the most important and powerful institution in the European Union, is it is
composed of people who have at some time been elected. They are usually former
Foreign Ministers or something like that, I mean they may not be particularly
interesting, they may not be particularly talented, but at some point to
create the mystique and the sheen of democratic legitimacy people have to be
elected.
So Catherine Ashton is unique on two counts; she is unique because she is
occupying this newly created post and she has broken the convention that, for
people to be the public persona of the European Union outside of the
Commission, they should have held public office. Now this is a very, very
important political event, much more important in fact politically than either
of these two posts: the President of the Council or the EU Foreign Minister.
If we cast our minds back to the Laeken Declaration of eight years ago, a
Declaration that was signed by Tony Blair, David Miliband was one of the
people who helped draft it. And that Declaration noted that voters feel that
deals are too often cut out of their sight and they want better democratic
scrutiny. And then you look at the process, the culmination of the Laeken
Declaration was the appointment of these two posts, this was an entirely
secret process compared to one of the candidates, the former Latvian
President, Vaira Vike-Freiberga, as being like the workings of the Soviet
Union. Miliband compared our journalistic speculations to who was or who
wasn’t in the running as a Kremlin neology, an entirely private and closed
process.
And with that process leading to Catherine Ashton’s – I’m really hammering
this point – the final pretence of the Laeken Declaration, the final pretence
that the EU even needs any form of democratic legitimacy has finally been
removed. Default secrecy is the practice of the European Union and default
secrecy is always the practice of institutions that feel unable to represent
the public. And the final pretence that the European Union represents the
citizens of Europe has been dropped with the appointment of Baroness Ashton
and that’s an amazingly significant event and we should not be blind to the
significance of that moment at 7:30 on Thursday night over truffled mushrooms
when they gave her the job.
Public debate of course allows the merits, certainly of candidates, for
political posts or public office or alternatives on policy to be discussed and
it allows us, the public, to weigh and to assess policies on the basis of
political principles, on the basis of even sectional class or national
interests as well. And as soon as you take politics out of that public realm
then you start to produce individuals and policies – as Christopher very ably
showed us on climate change – you begin to produce people and policies that
are more and more estranged from the real world and more and more actually
destructive to politics. So at the moment of appointing Catherine Ashton, who
is quite frankly a fairly ridiculous figure, is actually an amazingly
destructive moment for the European Union as well as the confirmation of eight
years of what’s been going on with the Lisbon Treaty.
So really what I’m arguing is that the European Union isn’t really a super
state, the European Union has emerged as yes some institutions, but more
importantly a practice of a unique kind of state craft for the 21st century.
It’s a state craft that is based on cooperation between political elites in
terms of state authorities, public authorities in countries and the most
important quality it has is the active exclusion of and hostility to the
public.
So the structures of the European Union, and we saw it in this kind of
farcical job selection, have evolved to provide maximum political privacy for
elites – why do I call them elites, because I’m not just talking about elected
politicians, I’m talking about the very powerful oligarchs and civil servants,
senior Police Officers and all the rest of it who are very much engaged in the
European Union – so as well as providing maximum political privacy for these
people it also provides maximum insulation from the public. The EU is a
public-free zone.
And for me, when you start looking at the European Union in this way, you can
actually see that the real substance of the whole Lisbon Treaty constitution
debate wasn’t so much the creation of new European Union institutions. After
all that really started with a single European Act, which is in a way much
more of a significant treaty in terms of institutional and legal forms and
then the Maastricht Treaty.
The real issue of the Lisbon Treaty and again its real defining moment wasn’t
the creation of an EU Foreign Ministry – I mean there is a legitimate argument
to be had there about whether there is a need for a European foreign policy –
the real Lisbon Treaty issue was the political evasion, that as an established
point of policy and political practice and as quite a substantial project for
a period of at least five years and the politicians particularly of the
largest three European Union countries evaded the public by not holding
referendums on a treaty because they realised that any kind of popular vote
would disrupt this process of maximum political privacy, expediency and
streamlining is always the word that they use.
And the reason why they had to do that, I just want to quote Sarkozy speaking
to a closed meeting in the European Parliament in November 2007, he made it
very, very clear, I mean he said France was just ahead of all the other
countries in voting no, it would happen in all Member States if they had a
referendum. There is a cleavage between people and Governments. A referendum
now would bring Europe into danger; there will be no treaty if we have a
referendum in France, which would again be followed by a referendum in the UK.
So it was a very explicit, certainly amongst themselves, I mean no one ever
wrote it down, it certainly wasn’t a manifesto that you could take to voters,
here it is our manifesto, we will define a political period for the next five
years by excluding you from politics, its not a vote winner. But this is the
real substance of Lisbon, I think it was this political evasion, ignoring of
the French and Dutch referendums, the bludgeoning of the Irish into a second
yes. It is the defining characteristic of the Lisbon Treaty; you can forget
all the flim-flam about primacy of EU law, the European diplomatic corps, the
real political substance was this conspiracy against the European publics.
There is a great story that Jens-Peter Bonde, the Danish politician, former
MEP, leader of the June Movement and the man in many ways behind the Danish no
in 1992; a very, very interesting man. He was involved in the convention that
gave rise to the EU constitution and he tells this wonderful story, the
convention wanted to insert a clause into the next EU Treaty that all EU
decision making and all EU policy documents and papers that lead to decision
making should be in the public domain. And he argued that they should always
be in the public domain unless in every case specific derogation or exception
is made. And it was the view of the convention that that should be inserted
into what would become the constitutional Treaty. But of course the final text
had to go through this presidium, this group of Ministers chaired by Giscard.
And Bonde tells this great story of going in to see Peter Hain, and Peter Hain
was one of the British representatives on the convention, he was the Europe
Minister at the time, because they were lobbying hard and they needed at least
one big country to support this kind of principle of openness to be inserted
in the Treaty. And Peter Hain is quite a nice chap, he’s very kind of liberal
and he’s got a bit of a rebel past, so when Bonde came in and asked him will
you support our kind of openness clause, Peter Hain said well of course I can,
I like the sound of that, I do like the sound of that. And of course instantly
at his elbow was the civil servant who plucked at his sleeve and said, ‘well
excuse me Mr Hain, Britain does not support this clause’. Because of course if
you opened up the EU to public scrutiny you would remove the political privacy
for European’s elites to cut deals to make their life convenient. In effect
you’d subvert the whole kind of process, so it’s the most difficult and
impossible reform for the European Union to make.
And I see the development of the EU, and this is why I thought Christopher’s
points about the relationship between the rise of the European Union and
developments in British politics and state structures is very, very important,
because we increasingly see that political structures, including Parliaments,
both at a national and EU level, have become a machine for transmitting
decisions taken by the enlightened bodies above us down to us so we the voters
become bystanders effectively. And we are increasingly regarded as an
unwelcome presence, so people will talk darkly of the rise of nationalism and
of populism. There is a fairly explicit hostility to the idea of public debate
which has been very much stigmatised in the European Union as something
dangerous and something uncontrollable.
And the increasing reliance of our political classes on structures like the EU
and various national equivalents comes at a moment when our leaders and the
political establishments across Europe are more and more unable to take voters
with them. Europe’s political classes have become so reliant and dependent on
the unprincipled and antidemocratic practices of the European Union and the
bureaucratisation, the legalisation of politics, that they are actually very
badly equipped – they even speak an entirely different language if you ever
read any EU documents – for fighting and winning referendums or any other kind
of votes.
Because of course as I have mentioned, nothing is more opposed to the
conventions of political practice in Brussels than the cut and thrust of
debate. Because the whole idea of debate and the whole importance of the
public sphere as a sphere for debate is that that kind of politics very
quickly escapes and becomes an entirely independent creature from the desires
and the wishes of rulers who sometimes want to ask their people to go along
with them for something and then these troublesome people have the irritating
knack of making up their own minds and the answer happens to be no.
So that facet of the EU, I would like to argue that that kind of founding
principle of the EU with the selection of these jobs and with the process of
the Lisbon Treaty, has become more and more explicit. It has actually revealed
the European Union to be a Union of rulers united in mistrust of the people,
not a Union of peoples.
In fact, I’m sure many people in this room – because it has a rather totemic
kind of significance for people of a certain political tribe –will remember
that the European treaties always used to have a phrase ‘an ever-closer union
of the peoples of Europe’. It always used to have that in there and I always
rather liked that declaration, it sounds nice and idealistic. In fact you know
that has now been dropped. The Lisbon Treaty is the first treaty since the
Treaty of Rome that does not talked about an ever-closer union of the peoples
of Europe because even the bureaucrats realised that after the French and
Dutch referendums that would be in bad taste.
So as I was saying, the gloves are off, the pretence has been dropped. The
European Union is quite explicit that it is not a union of its peoples; it is
a union of its rulers run for their convenience and not ours.
What I want to argue is that today there is a new political divide and there
should be a new political divide between those people who accept that
political processes and decisions should be taken away from voters because the
people can’t be trusted and those who do not. And to wrap up I really want to
say that the EU question is constitutional in the true sense of the word, its
not about the European Communities Act 1972, its not going to be about the
Conservative sovereignty bill, its constitutional in the true sense of the
word because it is about the nature of politics. It’s about who participates
in politics and for whom political structures are organised and the EU really
crystallises that for me. So for me debating the EU needs to become an
argument about what politics should be in opposition to how it is.
And I just want to finish maybe by saying some more uncomfortable things.
We’re going to hear a lot about political renewal next year; you know there
will probably be a new Government and that new Government, whether it likes it
or not, the issue of Europe will loom large for it, but without politics
assuming this more kind of constitutional character the EU, which is very
resilient in terms of its structures, will continue to survive and prosper
because maybe people aren’t asking the right kind of questions.
When people talk about better off out or withdrawal, you’re not really
confronting the real issue of what politics is in Britain because actually the
way that politics is in Britain and the various extrusions and practices of
the British state that have helped give rise to the European Union, and the
most powerful people who run the European Union in all of its institutions are
British civil servants who are very much Whitehall men and women. And it’s
that outlook very much that comes from Whitehall and some of the less
democratic elements of the British political system. Catherine Ashton is a
product of that.
So what I want to say is that if you want to really get to grips with the
European Union, it really means getting to grips with politics. And I think
that means we have to ask ourselves some very uncomfortable questions indeed,
for example why is it that we have a House of Lords that can be a springboard
for somebody like Catherine Ashton?
Speech by Gerard Batten
Thank you very much everybody. Can I say Christopher Booker is the only
reason I still go on buying the Sunday Telegraph. And of course he’s quite
right, the European Union is the only organisation that would appoint a
President called Rompuy and then demand that everybody cuts their emissions at
the same time.
I think the title of today was ‘Can the European Union survive?’ Well of
course unfortunately it very closely resembles a Soviet Union and the Soviet
Union survived for 70 years or more and they had a totally incompetent
economics system. And the European Union is a parasite on the back of the
capitalist system, on the free market system so the danger is that it actually
might survive a lot longer. And I think the question might be more apt, can
the UK survive the European Union.
Now I was very disappointed that Tony Blair wasn’t appointed the new President
because in view of what he did for our country he’s about the only person that
could have destroyed the whole thing for us, but we have to live with Mr
Rompuy I’m afraid. And of course does anybody seriously believe that Dave
Cameron is going to make any difference to this whole thing? He’s not a silly
man, he knows that the power has now all gone to the European Union, I don’t
feel that this is anymore about power, it’s about position and privilege and
is there anything left to be plundered from this country by him and his
friends before the whole thing goes belly up.
Now having said that I’ll get onto the subject I was supposed to be talking
about which is immigration and what I don’t want to do too much is to dwell on
the problems because I think we all know what the problems are, but what I
would like to do is to say a bit about what I believe the solutions are. But
let me have a brief recap on the problems. I did write in actual fact an
immigration policy paper for UKIP about two years ago, it hasn’t yet seen the
light of day in its entirety but I hope that it will do very soon in one form
or another.
Now what I did was something on the history of immigration first, it’s a
complete myth that this country is a nation of migrants. There actually hasn’t
been a great deal of migration into the country between 1066 and 1945; there
were migrants that came in but they were small in proportion to the overall
population and they integrated fairly quickly and successfully.
Since 1945 to 1971, we had roughly about 1.2 million people into the country.
1972 to 1996, roughly about 4 million, but since 1997 to 2008 – and I’ve yet
to update the most recent figures – about 6 million. So we had over that
period, from 1945 to 2008, about 11.2 million people came into the country.
Now since 1997, if you count the people that also left, we’ve had a net gain
of about 2 million people, but the current net gain is running at about
200,000 people per annum, which is adding a million people to the population
every five years or the equivalent of needing to build a new city the size of
Birmingham every five years.
Immigration has been uncontrolled, unlimited and indiscriminate in the real
sense of that word. Now that was not entirely due to the European Union, there
has been no controls on immigration, no real controls from immigration outside
of the European Union either. But we know we’ve had a big wave of immigration
since 2004 when new countries joined. The candidate countries who are lined up
to join the European Union including Turkey, including the Ukraine, if you sit
in the European Parliament you will know that those countries are going to
join eventually, it means that another 157 million people will have the right
to come to the UK if they wish as a result of those countries joining.
Now we know from recent revelations by Andrew Neather, a Labour adviser, that
this policy of deliberate uncontrolled immigration, well the policy was
deliberate. The Government report in 2000 called for immigration to change
Britain’s cultural makeup forever for political reasons. So was that the
purpose of immigration, well it seems that it was and that’s what occurred to
a lot of people like me and you I’m sure as we’ve watched this over the years.
Its intention was to destroy national identity, national loyalty and to create
a so called diverse and multicultural society which would be easier to subsume
into a United States of Europe.
Now the benefits of all this immigration of course was the driving down of
wages for the poorest people at the bottom end of the economy, while fuelling
a property boom that kept the economic bubble ballooning. Now it’s a rare
policy that benefits the socialist and capitalist extremes of the economy at
the same time, although for a limited duration and now the chickens are coming
home to roost.
Now Britain has been transformed in many ways and in some parts of Britain now
it’s almost as though you are in a foreign country. In the 21st century in
Britain we now had the blessing of Sharia law being practiced in some parts of
the country with demands that it increases and spreads.
Now according to some demographers the English will be an ethnic minority in
their own country within two to three generations, 50-75 years, and this is
all courtesy of unsustainable population growth which is completely the result
of unlimited immigration. If there was no immigration the population would
stabilise or slightly decline, which I think would be a good idea given the
journey I had on the Tube this morning when we were packed in like sardines
and wherever you go in the country you have the same problem; trying to put
more and more people into a limited space.
Now that doesn’t mean that we are anti-immigrant, I started work for two
Polish immigrants who’d come across with the Free Polish Army, I married an
immigrant, she is now a naturalised citizen, my children are part of the
statistic – I can’t remember the exact figure now, 25% or 50% of the children
born in London are now to mothers of foreign origin – well mine were, I don’t
have a problem with that. I don’t have a problem with immigration, nor does my
Party; the problem is about the scale and the type of immigration.
Now how do we then fix the problem? Well what I’ve done is laid out a 20 point
plan for my Party about how this problem can be fixed. I wont go through them
all but let me summarise the main things that I think any Government that’s
serious about this has got to do to get it under control.
I think the first thing that we have to do is to make a statement that the age
of mass immigration has to come to an end. Any future immigration must be
strictly controlled and limited and it must be for the benefit of the British
people and not for the benefit of immigrants.
One policy I did suggest which the Party has adopted is a five year freeze on
all future immigration while we deal with the current situation, get it under
control and deal with our illegal immigrants.
Now to do any of that we need to regain control of our borders and of course
to do that we have to leave the European Union. None of the things that I’m
going to suggest today will be possible if we’re members of the European Union
and of course we also then also need to remove ourselves from the jurisdiction
of the European Court of Justice and put sovereignty back with our own
Parliament and our own Supreme Court.
Now we have to introduce border controls with a strict visa system where we
check people in and we check people going out, so if people come in on holiday
or they come in on work permits we know that they’ve come in, if they don’t
leave, we issue a warrant for their arrest. When they eventually turn up we
deport them and we then put a limit on them coming back of five or ten years.
Only when we do things like that will people start to respect the law because
they will know that there is a penalty for disobeying it.
Now we need to remove the illegal immigrants in the country, we must state
clearly there will be no amnesty or what will happen to us is exactly what
will happen to the Spanish where they give an amnesty to the illegal
immigrants and then they get another wave coming in because that sends out
completely the wrong message.
But of course what the Government have done is to create a problem which
almost has no solution because there are probably upwards if not more than a
million illegal immigrants in this country and they’ve created a problem which
they intend that nobody would be able to fix in the future. And what I would
suggest is that we require all illegal immigrants to register with a Police
Station and state their status; are they working, are they paying tax, are
they paying insurance. If they are paying tax and insurance we would consider
them for permanent residency under a work permit so that they could stay, if
they are not paying tax and insurance we’d want a very good reason if we
didn’t deport them and anybody that doesn’t register should be automatically
deported if they are found along with their dependents. And I think that is
the most humane way of dealing with that issue.
Now the work permit system, the Government has obviously proposed a work
permit system but its useless because it only applies to people outside the
European Union, it wont be enforced anyway but people from the European Union
can come anyway and of course as I’ve said, there are literally millions of
people with the right to do it and millions more on the horizon. But we need a
work permit system where people are given leave to come in and work for
periods of time, a year, two years, three years, they do a specific job to
fill a gap in the economy and at the end of that time they will also then have
the right to apply for permanent residency if they wish and if its justified
we can give it to them and of course they can then apply for citizenship in
the long run.
But what these measures would do would be drastically cut down the number of
people who are coming here without our permission and without us saying
whether it’s a good idea for them to be here or whether they can stay. And of
course they must be to fulfil genuine gaps in the economy when we let people
in because how can you have an economy that is supposedly dependent on mass
cheap immigration when you’ve got 2 million upwards people on the dole not
working.
Now the other thing we need to do is to withdraw from the European convention
on refugees. We have to decide what a proper refugee policy is and how many
people we allow to come under that. We need to repeal the 1998 Human Rights
Act because that stopped courts dealing with terrorist suspects and illegal
immigrants. And of course we need to reintroduce the primary purpose rule
under immigration where people who want to come in, for example as brides and
husbands of British citizens, have to prove that there is a relationship
already in existence and that they are not coming in just in order to gain
entry to the country and its benefits.
I think we should also introduce one of my ideas is an undertaking of
residency, so when we give someone the right to live here, to work on a
semi-permanent basis, that they actually sign up to say that they wont break
the law, that they’ll be a good citizen, that they will respect our democratic
and tolerant way of life. So if they break that, like for example we’ve had
many examples of militant Islamic teachers preaching what we would believe to
be extremism, we can then kick them out of the country without going through a
big rigmarole of them demanding that we respect their human rights and we
can’t actually do anything with them.
If this country is worth coming to then people have to respect the right to be
here and we have to have sanctions. And of course what we should do also is
end the official promotion of the doctrine of multiculturalism, which is
divisive. If people want to come to this country then we have to presume they
want to live under a western liberal democracy. If they come and say they want
to practice Sharia law then we have to say to them, sorry you’re in the wrong
place, go and live somewhere where they practice Sharia law; this is not the
place to do it.
I believe that if a political party puts a programme like that to the British
people it will be voted on by or it will be accepted and approved by a
majority of people and many of the people who would accept it and approve it
will be immigrants themselves because I can tell you I actually go around and
campaign during election times and talk to people all the time. Some of the
most vociferous comments and objections to the current rates of immigration I
get are from people who were immigrants, maybe first or second generation, who
actually came to this country, had to work very hard to establish themselves
and now see people flooding in, getting the benefits, driving wages down and
they’re as unhappy about this as anybody else.
Now to sum up, in short we have to stop mass immigration, we have to integrate
and assimilate the people that we’ve already got, we have to build a cohesive
society based on one language, one law and a common national identity, a
respect for our legal and political institutions and that can be irrespective
of people’s ethnic identity. A multi-ethnic society can work because we’re all
people and if we agree in the same values broadly we’re going to get on.
Multiculturalism doesn’t work because it’s about divisiveness and separateness
and jockeying for position and privilege and power.
I believe that’s a sensible, non-racist policy, I hope that the UK
Independence Party is going to be putting it forward and I hope that a lot of
people are going to vote for us in the next General Election.
Thank you.
Speech by Richard Conquest
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Richard’s power point presentation
At various points in today’s proceedings the issue of can the EU survive
has been addressed. And it seems to me that the first point is as a political
entity can it survive, and mention was also made of the end of
empires.
I think there’s one interesting distinction to be made between for example the
disappearance of the Habsburg Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Tsarist and
German Empires as a consequence of war, I think more interesting is the
disappearance of the Soviet Empire because it was not in a state of war. It
collapsed under the weight of its own economic inertia and corruption and I
can very much see that this is the route that the EU, the EU SSR is already
destined to follow.
As for the survival of nations such as ours, I think that maybe
we’re not really proclaiming our own talents in the way we should. Again
mention has been made, albeit very briefly, of what happened in the UK, in
England in particular in 1642 and what happened in the glorious revolution in
1688, that England basically conferred upon world politics the concept of the
separation of power, the independence of the judiciary and by degrees popular
democracy. And these are all fundamental principles of British political
culture that are being traduced by the EU with the approval of our ruling
elite.
So I think it’s those great principles of British political culture that we
should most proclaim rather than worrying too much about immigration or more
peripheral issues.
Now in economic terms the survival of Europe is I think much more open to
doubt because I do not believe for one moment that potentially 27 countries,
different political economic structures can be subjected to one interest rate
policy and one exchange rate policy. And the evidence is growing day by day
that although the Euro is strong against the US dollar we know there is talk
of it superseding the dollar as a reserve currency. But within the Euro itself
there are tremendous tensions building up, which will I believe end up finally
with an enormous crisis. And the reason for this is that to have one interest
rate for the 16 nations of the Euro with very different economic structures,
political cultures, at different stages of the business cycle it is quite
simply economic madness.
And the country that I’ve really chosen to prove this is one that is not yet
in the Euro but is an aspiring country and that is Latvia because the
destruction done to the Latvian economy by the adoption of an inappropriate
monetary policy is absolutely disastrous.
You can see that the growth rate of the Baltics, since they recovered from
communism, has been pretty stratospheric, their growth rates have been much
higher than the EU in general. Now that tells me that their central banks
should have been in control of a rigid monetary policy but it wasn’t the case.
Because they adopted a fixed exchange rate regime against the Euro, they
effectively handed over control of their monetary policy to the ECB and the
Swedish banks. So they should have had very restricted monetary policy, they
didn’t, they had a very lax monetary policy more orientated towards Germany
than their own economic circumstances.
Now it’s true that in the run-up to the introduction of the Euro inflation
differentials within Europe – and inflation differentials are always the
killer, the nemesis of fixed exchange rate regimes – there was a tremendous
convergence of inflation, that’s true and that facilitated the introduction of
the Euro. And the Latvians aspiring to become at various times members of NATO
of the EU for some unknown reason and even more absurdly of the Euro itself,
decided to fix their exchange rate against the Euro. Now that told the banks
that there was no longer an exchange rate risk in lending money to Estonian
households, to Estonian corporates or to the Estonian Government, all the
Baltics in fact.
And so there was a monetary orgy. Lithuania did much the same thing but maybe
one point should be made, even though the Lithuanians for example has been
rigid against the Euro there’s still a very big degree of volatility against
the dollar implying an artificiality in the whole structure.
Now here you can see the consequences for Latvia that there was an orgy of
lending, particularly by the Swedish banks meaning that Latvian households
were taking mortgages in Euros, in Swedish krona building up colossal external
debts. And of course the time came when the whole bubble burst and the whole
business of an over-lax monetary position, the adoption of an ECB monetary
policy for a country like Latvia where it was absolutely inappropriate, now
they are reaping the consequences of this erroneous monetary policy.
You can see it’s a picture that is not confined to a small country like
Latvia; exactly the same thing has happened in other countries such as Spain
and indeed Ireland. They had very high growth rates and very lax monetary
policy, asset price bubbles and the inevitable bust. And this is what happens
as I say when you try to pretend that one monetary policy is appropriate to
very different economic conditions in different countries.
You can see again, just to emphasise the point, that in a small country like
Latvia with a rather undeveloped financial sector, the easy availability of
credit cards, of bank overdrafts, of mortgages where 20 years ago no such
things existed meant that there was a tremendous consumer boom and the
inevitable consumer bust. As you can see house prices have simply collapsed
and mortgage lending has actually gone into reverse.
And the final reckoning according to the IMF, I mean we know that
the credit crunch has been pretty bad even for Western European countries
although they are now starting to recover, but for example this year Latvia
and the Baltics are back to post-Soviet growth rates like the good news is
that this year its only going to be for example in Latvia, the GDP will be
minus 18%.
Now this sort of situation hasn’t been seen since the communists were booted
out 20 years ago. And so again, I’m saying that inappropriate monetary policy
has made matters much worse and it’s not simply in Latvia, it’s also in
several other Eastern European countries and of course countries like the
Republic of Ireland and Spain.
Now the unemployment rate in Latvia is going to hit possibly 25% and it is
really an economic disaster for them and if this doesn’t tell us about the
politicisation of money then nothing will.
Now there’s one differentiation, moving from the inappropriateness of one
interest rate, I wanted to then turn to the inappropriateness of one exchange
rate because all the ten members who joined in 2004, unlike us and the Swedes,
they don’t have any choice in the matter, they have a treaty obligation to
join the Euro. But again I would question this. Is it sensible for countries
with trade deficits of 20% of GDP to fix their exchange rates against their
strongest competitors? I think any rational person would say this is the
economics of a madhouse.
Now the reason I put this one up is when politicians talk pompously about the
irrevocable fixing of exchange rates, basically they’re talking through their
hats, they haven’t a clue what they’re on about because its not the nominal
exchange rate that matters, it’s the real effect of the exchange rate (REER),
which is a test of competitiveness. And what you see in the case here of
Latvia is that competitiveness has disintegrated because of inflation and
other tests of competitiveness against Germany in particular.
Output per man hour, productivity, unit labour costs, earnings per hour, and
in these terms the Baltics have thrown away the great advantage that they
initially had in their labour markets, it’s all gone. And this is a situation
which also applies to the southern rim of the Euro zone; particularly Greece,
Italy, Spain, Portugal and the Republic of Ireland, all of them have suffered
dramatic losses of competitiveness with predictable consequences.
Actually one thing, maybe you could say it’s a good thing in the case of
Latvia, which is this one, the crash of the economy has been so deep that the
volume of imports has virtually halved meaning that they’ve actually moved
into current account surplus but that’s not much comfort to the 20% of the
population who are at present unemployed.
You can see these are projections of the IMF up to year 13. They are now
outdated of course but Baltic States current account deficits with balances as
percentage of GDP, usually people say that the United States deficit of 5% to
6% of GDP is unsustainable. Well in that case what does that say about the
Baltic States and indeed other Eastern European countries and countries like
Greece, which has a current account deficit of 12% of GDP, three times that of
the United States and yet they are supposed to be sustainable within the Euro.
It simply does not add up.
As they’ve accumulated huge debts in foreign currencies, these debts of course
have to be serviced. And so if you find that you’re paying 15% of your gross
domestic product servicing your overseas debt you are in a pretty ruinous
situation and it seems one that Gordon Brown is determined to achieve for our
country as soon as possible.
Now within Euro zone itself, this is a basic measure of competitiveness, unit
labour cost in industry. You can see that Germany, because it has this
extraordinary discipline in its labour market, unit labour costs, because the
unions are content to accept zero increase in wages while Germany’s industry
improves its productivity measured per man hour, whichever way, it doesn’t
matter, German industry is an absolute powerhouse and for that reason unit
labour costs in Germany are under tremendous control.
In the rest of the EU it is not the case and the two that are obviously
tremendously vulnerable for loss of competitiveness are Italy and Spain, but
they are by no means alone in this. And this means that these countries also
are in deep current account trade deficits, even France is moving inextricably
downwards.
And for the weaker members, I would suggest particularly Greece, Italy, Spain
and Portugal; the EU is now exerting a centrifugal force, which is tending to
throw them out rather than to attract them by economic gravity inwards. The
opposite process is happening because the Euro has not brought about economic
convergence; it’s brought about economic divergence, which means that these
countries are going to find it increasingly difficult to live within the Euro
zone.
Here we have again the real effect of exchange rates. You can see that the
likes of the Republic of Ireland and Greece their competitiveness is
disintegrating within the Euro zone, while that of Germany is, as I say, I
mean the performance of the manufacturing, the industrial sector in Germany is
awesome.
So it’s a problem that is not confined to aspirants like the Baltic States,
it’s a problem that exists big time within mainstream Europe itself. But of
course the ECB, what do they say, oh we don’t have imbalances in the Euro
zone, which suggests one thing and that is utter dereliction of duty and
incompetence.
Here you see that particularly during the run up and the introduction of the
Euro, the competitive position of a number of countries has disintegrated
leaving them in a situation where they are incurring ever more massive current
account and trade deficits and these are all the tensions which are building
up within the Euro which in my mind at least certainly raises the question of
its survivability.
Now one measure of the way that the problem is now coming to light is in the
bond market. You can see that for the years in the run up to the introduction
of the Euro in the years when the Baltics fixed their exchange rates against
the Euro or the dollar initially, there wasn’t much difference in the yield on
ten year Government bonds implying that people thought that the risk in
Estonia was very similar to the risk in Germany let us say. But since the
credit crunch wiser counsels have prevailed and you can see that the cost of
debt service for the weaker economies like the Baltics has shot up even when
the cost of debt service and bond issuance in Germany has actually declined.
So the markets are saying something that the politicians don’t want to hear
and that is basically this situation is unsustainable.
And within some of the bigger Euro zone countries, you can see that again
doubts have hit the bond market big time. The risk perception of countries
such as Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece has increased enormously and with it
the price that they have to pay for their foreign borrowing and even their
domestic borrowing.
Well I think that is my case. I will conclude by saying that what it means is
that in economic terms a number of countries cannot afford to stay within the
Euro. But at the same time, in financial terms, they can’t afford to leave
because if for example the Baltics abandon their fixed exchange rate regimes
and devalue it, then the price of their external debt will be elevated to such
an extent that they would be bankrupt as nations and Greece and Italy are in
exactly the same situation. If the lira was reintroduced and devalued by 50%,
which is what would happen, then the Italian State would be bankrupt.
So what do you do, accept the economic pain in order to preserve what’s left
of your financial position or throw caution to the wind, devalue and face
almost inevitable default?
And the one person in Europe who has seen the danger of this is Jean-Claude
Juncker and that’s why he is trying to find some way by which countries such
as Germany and the Netherlands can begin to underwrite the state debt, the
sovereign debt of countries like Greece.
So it’s a very, very messy situation but one that is entirely made by
erroneous policy; erroneous interest rate policy and erroneous exchange rate
policy. The problem was entirely avoidable, it’s completely manmade and if you
asked any of the elite of Europe who brought this disastrous situation about
for any kind of explanation or solution, I don’t think you’ll get much of an
answer.
Thank you very much.
Speech by John Mills
Well thank you very much for inviting me to your conference and I am
particularly pleased to be here because sometimes you get the impression that
Eurosceptics are all on the right of the political spectrum, whereas that
really isn’t true at all.
If you look at the way opinion polls show people’s preferences, it’s pretty
clear that there must be a majority of Labour voters who are Eurosceptic and I
must say even within the Labour Party itself I think that a good deal of the
enthusiasm for the EU is a bit skin deep. Most Labour MPs for example I think
are much more concerned about issues like the National Health Service and
education than they are about the EU. They follow the party line because
that’s what everybody in the Labour Party and that Parliament seems to do
pretty well these days but I think a lot of this is skin deep.
I must say you’ve certainly had a variety of speakers here today including the
Mayor of Doncaster, who I didn’t entirely agree with all the time but I must
say I was interested to hear his experience of trying to cut expenditure in
Doncaster. And I have spent - apart from anything else that Helen told you
about – I spent 36 years as a member of various local government
organisations, including a large London Borough. And in the 1970s I was the
person who was in charge of the financials of the Borough and we hit the
buffers as Boroughs do and we had to have some fairly drastic cuts.
So trying to do this in the strategic way we asked all the Chief Officers what
could be done to reduce their expenditure and the Director of Works was asked
what the effect would be of reducing the grass cutting budget by one third.
His response, less grass would be cut. Reducing the weed killing programme; if
the weed killing budget is reduced undoubtedly less weeds will be killed. The
weed killing situation in the Borough may well get out of hand. So you can see
that cutting expenditure in local government or anywhere else actually isn’t
as easy as you might think.
But turning now to the Euro, I think there may be some interesting news in
looking at the Euro and I wouldn’t altogether be surprised if the Euro in the
end turns out to be the EU’s Achilles’ heel and leads to much more of the type
of arrangements in Europe that a lot of us would like to see, I’m sure
everybody in this room here. And I think the starting point is to just look at
what’s happened to currency unions that have been set up over the last 150 or
so years.
Now there have been loads of them, the EU is not by any stretch of the
imagination the first time that this has been tried. The first major one was
called the Latin Union and it was set up in 1865 and it involved France,
Belgium, Italy, Switzerland and later Greece. Now there was a good deal of
pressure at the time to get Britain to join the Latin Union and both the
Economist and the Times welcomed its introduction. In fact the Times described
it, believe it or not, as the most important step in the progress of
civilisation, which wasn’t a very good move because the Latin Union struggled
on for about 15 years and then started to disintegrate. There was a crisis in
Italy which precipitated this and in the end it broke up in serious
recrimination and folded up completely about 20 years later.
Now this has been followed by lots of other examples; the British Empire in
its day was a great one for currency unions. We have one in East Africa, with
Tanganyika as it then was and Uganda and Kenya. There was another one in the
Central African Federation, which in those days was Rhodesia and Nyasaland and
Northern Rhodesia. There was one in the Caribbean which involved Jamaica and
various other countries there. And not just in the Anglophobe world did we
have these kinds of arrangements. The Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia
believe it or not had a currency union, which lasted for about five or seven
years and then collapsed. Believe it or not Egypt and Syria had one as well,
improbable as that may seem.
Closer to home there’s an interesting example of what happened when
Czechoslovakia broke up, there was intention then that they should go on
having the same currency but within about six weeks of Czechoslovakia breaking
up into the Czech Republic and Slovakia they went their separate ways. The
Soviet Union of course in the days when it existed before communism collapsed
had the ruble as the currency right across all its constituent parts, but the
first thing that all the countries there did, once they became independent,
was to set up their own currencies.
Another interesting example is Ireland and the UK. Ireland and the UK shared
the pound or the punt for a very long period of time, but then eventually
about ten years or so before the EU came into being they diverged and went
their separate ways. A similar example actually to the ones that the previous
speaker mentioned in Latvia was what happened in Argentina and the USA, where
there was an intention by everybody to lock the currencies absolutely rigidly
in place to try and get a grip on the Argentinean economy and that in the end
came spectacularly to Greece, Germany and Austria, although they were separate
countries, had the same locked exchange rate between them until they both
joined the EU.
And perhaps more relevant to all of this is the experience of the EU itself or
the European Economic Communities it then was, with the snake which lasted
from 1969 to 1975 and the European Monetary Union which lasted from 1979 to
1993. Now what happened in the EEC or in the snake and the EMU was an
absolutely classic example of why currency unions don’t work. Because what you
had was Germany, as Richard Conquest has rightly said, with great labour
discipline and trade unions who were not pressing for large wage increases and
very high productivity, excellent training schemes and stellar export
performance. And then you had other countries which just couldn’t cope with
this at all.
And gradually what happened was that the disparities in performance between
these various countries got worse and worse and what then happened, which is a
very important effect, was that the performance of the whole of the economic
area went down. When both the snake and the European Monetary Union started
growth rates across the whole of the EEC as it then was, were around about 5%,
by the time they collapsed in the snake’s case only six years later, in the
EMU’s case a bit longer than that, the growth rate was down to just about
nothing.
And the reason for this is absolutely straight forward. What happened was that
the German economy exported to absolutely everybody else, drove them into
balance of payments deficits, the only way they could try and deal with all
these was to deflate, which meant higher and higher levels of unemployment,
lower and lower rates of economic growth. As Germany exported most of its
output to other European countries what then happened was that the German
export markets collapsed because other members of the European Union couldn’t
afford to pay for their imports and the whole of the growth rate of the area
went down.
And the political crisis that triggered this off, and you remember our own
exit from the European Monetary Union in 1992, was a political crisis which
led to these organisations breaking up. And it was the disastrous results of
these various efforts to keep the currencies separate, you know still the
Deutsche Marks and the peseta and so forth, but to lock them together, which
led to the Maastricht Treaty determination to set up the euro.
Now why do all these currency unions go wrong? Undoubtedly the major reason is
that you finish up with different rates of inflation in different countries.
Just masking it all by calling everybody’s currency the Euro doesn’t alter
that position if inflation rates in Italy and Spain and Greece and Portugal
and Ireland and all the countries that Richard Conquest mentioned, have been
substantially higher than they were in Germany. And the result of all this is,
as you’ve seen from the figures that were up on the board just a minute or two
ago, is that Italy and Spain are now about 30% in inflation terms above where
they were when the Euro came into being.
Now what is really crucial isn’t so much actually the consumer rate of
inflation, it’s what happens to the export industries and that’s where the
shoe is really pinching in those countries and did do during the snake and the
EMU. And these are then accentuated by different political policies and social
priorities. Its very interesting that if you look at where monetary unions
have tended to work, they’ve tended to work relatively well in countries which
share the same language, have the same sort of institutions for example
Britain and Ireland and Austria and Germany and they work worse where there
are big divergences in languages and cultures.
There are often very different political traditions in a lot of countries. If
you look at the homogeneity of the way German Governments on the whole have
run the consensus and the unity of purpose which they have exhibited and
compare that with what’s gone on in countries like Italy, you can see why you
finish up with very different policies with different results on the economy.
There are other things which cause huge divergences, for example changes in
energy. If one country discovers a large reserve of oil in its area and other
ones don’t this has big effects on the exchange rate, which are extremely
destabilising and then there’s always crises of one sort and another to
accentuate all the other difficulties.
And generally speaking the reason why currency unions tend to collapse is
there just simply isn’t the political cohesion and social cohesion and even
more important the tax capacity to hold them together. Because if you’ve got
countries like the United States where some areas do relatively well and
others do relatively badly, but you have the Federal Government moving
resources around, you can shield the areas that aren’t doing so well very
substantially from the resources of the other ones. But the EU just isn’t in
that position for reasons I’ll explain in just a minute.
And also the other really key things about currency unions is they all start
off with a great fanfare of trumpets with everybody being very enthusiastic
and encouraged by initial progress its made and gradually things get worse and
worse as time goes on.
So turning now to the EU and the Euro, how does all this impact on what the
future is likely to be? Well one thing I think is absolutely certain and that
is that we’re going to go on seeing varying inflation rates in different
countries and in particular it is very likely that Germany is going to go on
being extremely efficiently run in industrial terms with very high exports
both outside the EU, which is one of the major reasons why the Euro is so
strong, and also internally and that this is going to drive everybody else
into balance of payments deficits.
And these effects are already very clearly visible in the case of the
weakening of economies: Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland and Portugal. And
there’s also the side show in Eastern Europe where I have to say all looks
extremely like Argentina to me and although, for reasons I’ll tell you in a
minute, I think it may be quite a while before the strains really overwhelm
the whole of the Euro area for the countries that haven’t yet joined. And
where the impact of the Euro has been as disastrous as it has in all the
Baltic States I shall be very surprised if they don’t in the end get forced
into some sort of devaluation before the rest of it all cracks up if it does.
And the other reason why the EU is in bad shape in all this is because the
amount of redistribution there is within the EU between countries is pretty
small. It was 1.27%, its now gone up a bit, I think its about 2% or something
now, but this is way less than what you get in genuine states which are the
United States or our own countries, UK and France, where typically in Europe
the amount of money that goes through the Government’s hands is about 45%,
which is available for redistribution of one sort and another and even 25% in
the USA, but something like 2% in the EU. And even of that 2% a lot of it is
redistributed the wrong way through the Common Agricultural Policy with poorer
countries paying relatively speaking to richer ones, so if you deduct that out
of the 2% you’re left with even less.
There was a report that was produced in 1977 by McDougall, which suggested
that you’d need at least 7.5% to 10% to hold a single currency together in
Europe and at the moment there’s only a tiny fraction of that.
But there are two things which make it more unlikely that the Euro zone will
break up than was the case with these other currency unions I’ve just
described. And these are first of all there is a very determined political
class in Europe about which we’ve heard plenty today which may not be
reflected in the views of the average voter but the people who actually hold
the levers of power in Brussels are undoubtedly going to throw absolutely
everything behind trying to avoid the Euro zone breaking up.
And the second thing that makes it particularly difficult to see how it would
fail is that in many ways the key was thrown away when the Euro zone was set
up because it is actually a very different situation where you’ve actually got
your own currency still there, which is still the case in the Baltic States,
where the original currency you had just isn’t there anymore at all and has to
be recreated from nothing.
So what’s likely to happen? Well I think there are some things as I say you
can be pretty certain will be the case, tensions are almost certain to get
worse because of these differential rates of inflation. And when you think
about it, if there’s a 30% difference now in the cost base in Italy and Spain
after ten years, what’s that going to be after 20 years and are we going to
have a 60% difference. You saw how pretty well linear that graph was, how it
this difference in competitiveness had been eroded away. If we get up to 60%
difference we really are going to get well beyond the stage where unemployment
is at its present levels, you’re going to be in the much more disastrous
territory that the Baltic States are moving rapidly towards at the moment.
Now one of the effects of all this may be that there’s a big drive by the
political class in Brussels to get the EU to adopt a much larger economic role
than it has done up till now, and we’ve heard mutterings today about the idea
that there should be direct taxation to the EU. And I’m sure there are some
people in Brussels who would love to have the EU running Social Security,
running education, running defence and all these other big spending
operations, which might produce some sort of redistribution.
I have to say that with the credibility of the European institutions right
across the board being where it is, despite the best efforts by people in
Brussels, I think the chances of huge switches in revenue and expenditure
processes of that sort being undertaken within the timescales are pretty
unlikely.
So what is then going to happen? Well I think it’s possible that nothing very
much will happen that there will be some apathy right across the European
Union, that what will happen is that people will just accept that what goes on
is what it is. A bit like, to be candid with you, is the situation in this
country over the EU where there’s massive dissatisfaction, but the fact is
there’s no effective way of channelling this and I have to say if David
Cameron and the Conservatives get elected in next May or June, aren’t we going
to see a radical alteration in our relationships with the European Union, I’ll
believe it when I see it.
I don’t think it’s going to happen, I think they’ll be as trapped as all the
other Governments we’ve had over the last few years and the present attitudes
to Brussels and that nothing very much will change. And that may be what
happens over a long period in the European Union.
But it may be that this wont happen, it may be that what will happen is the
banks will burst and that we’ll find one way and another, either by very
non-conformist political parties coming into power or by the development of
serious social unrest and if unemployment is 10% or 20%, its just about
liveable with, if it gets up to 40% or 50% it is just completely impossible to
live with that. It may be that the banks will burst and something will happen.
Now it will be a very messy situation if that does happen because there will
be vast amounts of debts that are denominated in Euros which are going to have
to be paid and I think that the impact on the Treasuries of Governments that
finish up in default may be completely unbearable. But bear in mind also that
the costs of very, very high levels of unemployment and Government deficits
and all the rest of it are very, very high as well so there may be, a bit like
this country here, our own country, faced with a very difficult choice between
cutting the Gordian Knot now and getting back to some sort of stability over a
period of time or letting the situation get worse and worse to a point where
its as bad as it would have been if default had taken place.
But if does take place then I think what you might find is that Europe
finishes up by being much more of a two-speed place than it was. It is
difficult to believe that you could have a really major default across a
significant number of the Members of the European Union and it would still
stay the same organisation as it is now. It does seem to be at least possible
that the results of all this would be that you would finish up on a hard core
of countries probably mainly around Germany, the Netherlands, maybe Denmark,
possibly even France and that you’d find that the other countries,
particularly the Club Med ones, the weaker ones we discussed earlier on, have
to be pushed into some looser kind of relationship with Europe which may be
very much what all of us would like to see.
What are the timescales? Very hard to tell; if you look at the lifetime that
most of the currency unions that have been set up in the past, the weaker ones
have gone to the wall in about six or seven years, the stronger ones have
lasted 20 years. My guess is that we’re going to be looking more likely at 20
years than a shorter period of time.
But it seems hard to believe that nothing is going to happen. It does seem to
me that some time over the next ten years we are going to see a really major
crisis developing in Europe and that may be the opportunity that we’ve all
been looking for for quite a long period of time now and suddenly we’ll find
its arrived.
Speech by Dr Lee Rotherham
The conference is entitled The Future of the EU... Can it Survive? Sadly
yes.
Let me begin by explaining my particular vantage point. Some months ago at the
Taxpayers’ Alliance I was tasked with coming up with a text of a book. That
book had to explain how the lives of people would be different, better if the
UK were outside of the EU. I expanded this to develop a broader analysis
following the trends that are pushing the EU along the flow like a matchstick
of history. It sounds like a difficult task but less than you might expect if
you are, like all of us here today, a keen observer of the Brussels scene.
Some of you may be familiar with the works of Isaac Asimov. A particular
favourite of mine is the Foundation series, in it a scientist named Hari
Seldon reveals he has developed a technique to predict future history based on
the macro group actions of the mass of human beings. As such he foresees a
pending dark age for humanity as the empire fragments and he seeks to limit
the damage by using his predictions to affect the result.
In our case in fact the exact reverse is true. It is possible for the last 50
years of the development of the EEC to track the decision making not of a mass
of people but of the micro-elite who have governed European integration to
predict not a fragmentation but the mechanisms of a simulation. There is a
basic set of laws behind the EU that allows us to scry how it would develop.
Let’s here dip into a few of them:
Law 1: The impetus of ever closer union. We all know it; it’s
been in their treaties for as long as we can remember. The starting point
guidelines behind the EEC were centred upon the steady accretion of powers as
the project gathered speed. The EEC’s founding fathers knew that the public
wasn’t ready in the 1950s for a federal Europe; it wasn’t even ready for a
military alliance as the French Parliament demonstrated by rejecting a
European structure that included a re-militarised West Germany.
So integration had to be achieved if not imperceptibly, at least with such a
degree of gradualism no one could argue that any one individual treaty was
where the balance of power definitively shifted. If no finger could point, no
critical mass could rally and counterpoise to block the project. All the while
each passing directive added to the authority of the Commission, each Euro
spent added to the dignity of the 12 star flag, each court case visited by the
European Court of Justice added to the reach of the community. The EU, the
EEC, the EEC a secretor of time designed to weather a long process.
Law 2: The illegal is never impossible. If a referendum is
lost ignore the result, if a Commission is voted out of office keep it in
place anyway, if its term of office expires keep them signing off directives
regardless, if a treaty has not been signed pass laws as if it were. In short
like a headless chicken the EU will continue to survive for a while even when
it is officially dead.
Law 3: A binding conspiracy; its like one of those horror
movies, we know what you did last summer in Lisbon. Once the thing is a done
deal everyone has signed their soul away and there is no going back. Everyone
who hesitates about signing beyond what is considered reasonable
jiggery-pokery about getting extra fish or council votes or MEPs becomes a
heretic. In such circumstances of capitalism and tribalism the EU will survive
until failure is catastrophic.
Law 4: Suppress the costs, talk up the Euros. With a budget
of hundreds of millions of Euros a year whose murky depths a past Bruges Group
paper was I think the first to fully explore, the EU makes maximum use of a
major PR programme, it exploits it to sell the nebulous advantages of EU
membership, not least the grants, and particularly the money thrown at what
are called opinion multipliers. These are vulnerable target audiences such as
children and the old that can talk to and convince the others. With decades of
such practice in play the public is aware of EU grants as a supposed and in
some countries actual boon for their public but they are less aware of the
costs. Who was aware for instance that Peter Mandelson’s own
Directorate-General estimated that red costs of Brussels are running at double
the benefits of the single market? Hardly surprising if you think about it.
Take the UK, we export one tenth of our business to the EU, a tenth elsewhere
in the world and trade internally for the remaining four fifths. But for one
tenth of our business, trading incidentally in deficit, the remaining nine
tenths of our trade also has to carry the red tape costs. There isn’t yet a
great public awareness of these costs so the EU is not quite yet under the
critical and withering spotlight here.
Law 5: It’s someone else’s fault. The EU still continues to
get away with being able to define itself, its successes and failures, in
relation to the other. It may be playing with the phantoms of the past:
Prussian militarism, Alsace-Lorraine, narcissism, Franco, the Greek Colonels,
Stalinism, genocide or for that matter, chimney sweeps, the 80 hour week and
war famine. It may be playing with the shadows of the near present
particularly in the Balkans or the Great Lakes for all that the EU didn’t do
in either case.
Or it may be in the perils of the present and the future: Wall Street, Islamic
terror, Red China, The Pentagon. By blaming others or setting itself up as a
fair mirror alternative to a grim silhouette, the EU continues to get away
with a multitude of sins across much of the continent. As such Brussels still
has some goodwill points in its bag for a number of potential critics even if
long memories are slowly draining away.
Law 6: The one-way state; finally the biggy. Once surrendered
powers can never be returned, opt outs are mere derogations, even the UK opt
out from the Euro is legally only a temporary device albeit one with no given
timescale. In such circumstances the EU is a centripetal state. Stellar
physicists will tell you that stars will implode before their death glory
explosion as a Stella nova. The centralisation of power is still so far away
from creating an overwhelming clash in any Member State that the red giant’s
expanding motion will continue for some while yet. There is simply no
elasticity in the model to provide an alternative, say as in the
Austro-Hungarian or the Norwegian-Swedish histories for a trend in the other
direction allowing the structure to widely break up.
A case in point is the response to the Laeken Presidency Conclusions. These
set up the convention on the future of Europe with a mandate that included the
option expressly stated of bringing powers back. That part of the mandate was
ignored, worse than ignored; it was deliberately eluded like an uninvited wife
at a bigamist’s wedding reception. The fact that it was ignored was itself
ignored; hence today we have the Lisbon Treaty with a mechanism to take even
more powers away through the passerelle clause, through a sort of whirlpool of
unaccountability. With mechanisms such as that in play, of course the EU will
survive that bit longer, it will continue like a Boa constrictor until all
life in its prey, the democratic nation state, is spent and then it will try
to swallow it. Only at that point will it discover, unable to disgorge, that
it will choke. We are still some way off that yet.
This process marks a dangerous divergence from other federal systems such as
Canada, Australia, India, Indonesia or even Micronesia where the division
between centre and province or state or island is much more clearly marked.
Each is the product of a decision made at a moment in time, perhaps
subsequently amended, but set as the result of measured needs and
circumstances.
Canada’s constitutional settlement today is the result of Confederation in
1867, itself the reaction to the fear of a Union invasion following the
American Civil War. Notwithstanding the gradual handover of powers from the
colonial power, namely Britain, between the salient dates – and I kid you not
– of the Halibut Treaty of 1923 and the Canada Act 1982 and set in the context
of an incessant debate over according Quebec sufficient weight to protect its
particular status, nevertheless you have a delineated series of treaties and
events in which at all times the federal power structure was clearly defined.
Such countries have a more settled agreement not a permanent state of ratchet
power grab. There is no such thing as the acquis communitaire or the creeping
behind occupied competencies because powers can and do go either way.
True, there may be shifts to the federal centre in times of war such as World
War II or crisis such as 9/11 or with the development of new technology, think
of television, radio and the railways. However, the shift is more open and the
subject of considerable and considered argument over whether something really
needs to be handled centrally. Cast your mind back to the huge debates of the
founding generation of the United States and the genuine democratic flow that
followed the ovations of Madison, Hamilton and Jefferson, how so very
different from the obfuscations and lies that have flowed from politicians
over a Lisbon referendum.
In the case of the Indonesian constitution some federal powers in particular
over petroleum were actually handed back to provinces a decade ago. A similar
debate developed in the framing of the Iraqi federal constitution, but never
so with Brussels even in the face of failure. Like a hit and run driver, the
answer is to accelerate away, not stop and take a look and deliver at least
some first aid to the victim. Thus we can foresee more integration for the EU
yet and with it a continuing drive to exist as every setback and spasm
triggers a further squeeze from the constrictor.
So there we have it, the EU continues to push for integration with no escape
valve, but despite repeated blasts of billowing smoke from the exhaust pipe
currently insufficient explosive force to blow the engine. Its elites continue
to support and endorse the project spending money and goodwill to convince the
public that it’s for the greater good.
So now, to return to this conference’s main question, I don’t think the EU is
damned to imminent oblivion. If you want an allegory to picture of it think of
it in the terms of the lifestyle of an addict, perhaps as a gambler pushing on
with more throws of the dice and parlously raising stakes despite all good
sense screaming to the contrary. Or perhaps the intoxication and ultimate
self-destruction suggest a condition more akin to alcoholism. Either way,
until Europe’s liver finally packs in, until a real scare wakes the leaders up
to the dangers that accompany their actions, European integration will
continue. The EU has already been rushed to hospital on more than one occasion
over the last decade but the wrong lesson has been learnt, integration will
accelerate. However, that doesn’t mean to say that the UK has to be a part of
it.
Technically of course there is a way out, we explore it briefly in the book
and whether you play it diplomatically or brutally the UK can leave the EU at
any time of its choosing. Nor, increasingly, is there any doubt as to the
merits of leaving. Thanks to the sterling work over long years by economists,
political exiles and campaigners it is starting to sink in amongst the general
public and the commentariat that there is a bill attached.
The fraud, the corruption, the abstracts of the loss of democracy have already
started to sink into the public psyche, the tide is now lapping around the
ankles of the federalists as the public is taking stock of the sum costs.
Whereas in the past people might think of EU membership as at worst a zero sum
game, consecutive research over the past decade is starting to make its mark
while the revealed tally of costs annually mounts.
I pay particular tribute of course to the Bruges Group and I doubt whether
there is a single person in this room who has not played a valiant and
significant part. In fact I had you all in mind in the garden party scene in
the book. I’ll leave you to discover that bit.
Increasingly as I say, the public have seen glimpses beyond the triumphalism
of the British success that was the single market, the dim recollections of
past arguments about the UK needing to be in the EEC in order to be able to
sell its wares. Just as the EEC has moved on so has the world, while tariff
barriers have dropped away globally even between the EU and non-members, the
actual cost of doing business within the 12 star boundaries has increased.
In place of the Iron Curtain we now have a red tape tapestry. Too often,
instead of an information highway, we find a bureaucratic Post-It note. A
civilisation that despatched merchant explorers through ice-bitten wastes and
dengue-ridden rivers is sinking into an economy of Belgium grunny loo
attendants.
The red tape, the bureaucracy, the burdens are increasingly being set against
the claimed trade benefits of membership, benefits that under WTO agreements
are increasingly ephemeral especially for a country where burdens affecting
100% of business are intended to benefit only 9% of it.
We could put that another way, for every pound a single market generates in
liberalised trade, EU bureaucracy costs the country two back; or how about
this way, total red tape from the EU costs as much as the total amount of
trade the red tape is supposed to regulate. In those circumstances just about
any trading arrangement would be better than the one we are currently in, even
before you factor in the damage caused by the common fisheries policy, the
wreck of the common agricultural policy and the 6.5 billion and rising annual
bill just to belong to the madhouse.
In this light the logical first step for any Government would be to run a
serious cost benefit analysis of EU membership as MPs and peers like Lord
Pearson have in the past recommended. A fair analysis would remove the sting
from the European issue, either one side or the other in the current debate
would be rebuffed.
Either everyone in this room would be proven wrong and we can concentrate on
making the EU a more democratic and accountable place rather than wasting time
arguing about deficits or we would, as I rather suspect, be proved right, in
which case massive renegotiation or withdrawal, effectively in the
circumstances the same thing, are the only options left on the table. But
these would be taken from a position both of strength and of unswervability
before an expectant public mindful of its lost revenue. A fig leaf, a slight
shuffling of the treaty deck would not suffice. From that all things become
possible.
Consider what form of association we could then demand of our trading partners
or reflect again on what elements so currently wrong with our present deal we
should then revoke. This list will be a long one but as we note in the book,
Britain’s current form of association with the EU, that is to say full
membership with a scattering of opt outs is not the only possibility.
We could choose to take the Norwegian model, establishing an internal market
association without full EU membership. Some have accused that option of being
like a ‘fax democracy’, to some extent they have a point, though given that
the Norwegians as a country of four million, still control their key
industries of oil and fish, they seem to have at least gotten their priorities
right.
Also to be fair, some past Norwegian Governments have been very keen on full
EU membership, so perhaps this model was a political halfway house that some
in Oslo saw as a useful stepping stone and indeed possible motor for winning a
future referendum on those very democratic grounds.
But in any event we don’t have to take that option; we could take something
more along the lines of the Swiss option, a symmetric food trade agreement.
It’s fascinating to learn that of all the European States only the Swiss seem
to have actually costed their relationship with the European Union. As a
useful Global Vision paper points out, they worked out in 2006 that their
current arrangement was costing one ninth of the bill of full membership.
Then again some people claim that the Swiss don’t get everything their own way
so maybe we should look elsewhere and we can, we can look at Turkey’s Customs
Union or South Africa’s asymmetric Free Trade Agreement or Georgia’s
Partnership and Cooperation Agreement or Macedonia’s non-reciprocal trade
preference agreement or Japan’s most favoured nation terms or heaven help us,
we could even look at a trading settlement with North Korea. There are such a
mass of options on the table.
With Syria the context is a broader one of developing Mediterranean free
trade. Even within similar treaty formats there are different terms. The
arrangements with Mexico for instance, carry provisions on cooperation in
mining, with Canada there is more interest on seals. The point is that there
is such a wealth of opportunity to statesmen of vision if only we can find one
in a position of power somewhere to be propelled by widespread public outrage.
That’s a separate debating lane to poodle down on another day.
But ladies and gentlemen, I wish to conclude with a tinge of optimism, a twist
of lime-flavoured hope. At some point, and it may be very soon, the true cost
of British membership of the EU will become widely known; its democratic cost,
its financial cost, its social cost, its entrepreneurial cost, its global
cost, its historical cost. Stand ready because the dawn of final realisation
come that fine morning will swiftly hit the land, even politicians will have
to wake up because just pushing the snooze button will no longer be an option.
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