LORD WILLOUGHBY
DE BROKE THE EU, THE HOUSE OF LORDS AND THE LISBON TREATY
Lord Willoughby de Broke is a UKIP representative in the House of Lords.
Whilst he was in the Conservative Party he was a Vice-President of
Conservatives Against a Federal Europe. His political interests include Tibet,
rural affairs and the EU.
& GERRY FROST EUROSCEPTICISM: WHY HAS IT FAILED?
Gerry is the editor of the Eurosceptic magazine Eurofacts. He is a former
director of the Centre for Policy Studies and is a specialist on foreign
affairs, defence and issues relating to the European Union.
LORD WILLOUGHBY
DE BROKE
Lord Willoughby de Broke is a UKIP member of the House of Lords. He
is one of the ninety hereditary peers elected to remain in the House of
Lords after the passing of the House of Lords Act 1999. Whilst he was
in the Conservative Party he was a Vice-President of Conservatives
Against a Federal Europe (CAFE).
Lord Willoughby de Broke is the Chairman of St Martin’s Theatre Company and
an Honorary Governor of the Royal Shakespeare Theatre. He was President of the
Heart of England Tourist Board. In 2006 he was elected as the Chairman of the
Warwickshire Hunt. He is also a Deputy Lieutenant for Warwickshire. and
President of
the Warwickshire branch of the Campaign to Protect Rural England (CPRE). He is
a
Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society.
His political interests
include Tibet, rural affairs and the EU. He shall talk on The EU, the
House of Lords and the Lisbon Treaty.
GERRY
FROST Gerald Frost is a senior journalist, author and speechwriter who has
written widely about domestic and international politics. Gerry was
Director of the London based Centre for Policy Studies from 1992
until 95 and head of the Institute of European Defence and Strategic
Studies, which he founded in 1981. Gerald Frost has edited more than 70 books
and
monographs, and written widely in the international media.
He is currently the
editor of the Eurosceptic magazine Eurofacts. Gerry Frost’s talk
was titled Euroscepticism: Why has it failed?
I was interested to hear what Gerry Frost had to say because I greatly
admire what he’s done in publishing Eurofacts and bringing the facts of the
argument to a wider public. And I’m going to ignore his rather disobliging
remarks about UKIP; I’ll leave that for another day.
My subject really is what has been going on in the House of Lords and I come
to you from the coal face, hot and darkened with dust this evening from a vote
on the third reading of the Lisbon Treaty Bill, where the Conservative
amendment was defeated by a very substantial majority of 90 odd votes, which
is more than they lost the original referendum vote on last week, which was
lost by about 50 votes, this was nearly double that. And you have to ask why?
I don’t think it was the strength of the arguments, I think it was a lot of
Conservatives were at Ascot actually, that’s why I think the vote was so
substantial.
I think I need to explain to you why somehow you may feel the House of Lords
has let you down, perhaps the eurosceptics, well let’s look at the complexion
of the House of Lords first of all. There are about 215 Labour peers, about
208 Conservative peers, 200 cross-benchers, 60/65 Lib Dems, there is the
church of course who are completely Europhile the Bishops and then there are
the disaffects, people like Lord Black who wasn’t able to be with us tonight,
Lord Archer and then the UKIP duo of Malcolm Pearce and myself and other
people who don’t feel able to take a party whip.
But of course the 200 cross-benchers aren’t perhaps what they were a few years
ago, which really they are the balance in the Lords, the maths speak for
themselves but it seems to be a sunset home for commissioners. In the Lords
we’ve got Lord Kinnock, Brittan, Tugendhat, Richard, Clinton-Davis, a raft of
them in other words there. The cross-benchers also have people who are on
Government chairman of quangos of various sorts, nearly all appointed under
the Labour Government although they have to, by convention, sit on the
cross-benches they are temperamentally inclined to vote Labour or are
temperamentally Europhile. And then the Lib Dems of course, we know what their
position is, I think we do, I’m not sure they know themselves but I’ll go into
that in a minute.
So the reason that if you’re surprised about the votes in the Lords, simply
it’s the mathematics, it isn’t if you like in our, the eurosceptics, the
rationalists, the euro-realists, its not in our favour, which is one of the
reasons of course we’ve never won a single amendment during all the 11 days of
debate on the Lisbon Treaty.
The Lib Dems of course really are the special ones, I mean they manage to vote
in the Commons, some of them lost the whip because they voted against their
own party and voted for a referendum. When it came to the Lords, they managed
to do a sort of double U-turn and didn’t vote for a referendum and didn’t vote
to abstain, they decided they would vote actually with the Government. So it
made it very difficult, it was like nailing jelly to a wall to work out what
the ‘Lib Dim’ position actually was, but in the end they made it quite clear
that they were going to vote regardless of what their leader said, they were
going to vote with the Government and support the Lisbon Treaty.
Now this evening’s debate was interesting because of course after the Irish
vote the Lisbon Treaty is technically dead, its moribund, it’s all over for
the Lisbon Treaty at the moment. It requires as you all know 27 signatories to
get it through, to ratify it, one of those countries, the only country that
was given a referendum decided not to ratify the Treaty so it is dead, but you
wouldn’t have thought it to hear the debate tonight.
In fact Lord Brittan got up and said, and I quote, ‘the Treaty is not dead its
asleep’. By God if you were Sleeping Beauty you wouldn’t want to be kissed
awake by Lord Brittan would you? And there were a mass, there was Lord Kerr of
Kinlochard who formulated the constitution in the earlier Treaty that was
voted down by the French and the Dutch voters and of course they simply cannot
accept that their pet baby was voted down by the Irish this time having very
carefully ensured as far as they possibly could that there would be no
referendums at all in the European Union, it was too dangerous to do it,
they’d all agreed that. They said there’s going to be no referendum we can’t
allow that, just like the Government here, we really can’t ask the people it’s
too dangerous and they’re too ignorant to be asked. Luckily the Irish, I think
it was the Irish Court, the Irish High Court, the Irish Supreme Court said
this Treaty was of Constitutional importance and therefore a referendum was
required.
So that is the position and there were several speeches by eminent legal
personalities in the Lords who explained in words of one syllable – actually
no lawyers never use one syllable when ten will do – but they did explain
quite clearly that the Treaty was dead but other noble Lords then got up and
said no its not dead at all, it is like Lord Brittan said, its asleep or the
Irish made a mistake or they weren’t actually voting about the Treaty, they
were voting about the colour of Brian Cowen’s socks or about abortion or
anything but about what the Treaty was about. Exactly what they said if you
remember when the French voted down the constitution, they were voting against
Mitterrand and not about the issues in the referendum, a total lie.
But it does get under people’s skins in the end, this constant drip of
superiority, of arrogance, of denial that people know what they’re voting
about and I believe that in spite of tonight’s vote, it doesn’t alter the fact
that the Treaty is actually dead. And I spoke to Lord Neill, who is not a law
lord but he is a very highly respected legal person and he said ‘no the Treaty
is definitely dead’. He spoke tonight and I collared him afterwards and I also
spoke to Lord Christopher Kingsland who was Shadow Lord Chancellor and he
certainly knows what he’s talking about he said ‘no its all over for the
Treaty, its dead, they’ll have to come back with a different Treaty or they’ll
have to ask the Irish to vote again’. And I think the chance of the Irish
being amenable to having a Treaty stuffed back down their throats is remote in
the extreme.
So what is going to happen? There will be confabulation, there will be a lot
of eminent groups and all of the things they love calling their study groups
in Europe and they’ll get together and they’ll try and think of a fudge. But I
think it’s going to be quite difficult to be honest and no one seems to want a
new treaty, even the Government admitted that tonight but the Lisbon Treaty is
non-operative, it’s finished but it is extraordinary how many peers tonight
simply won’t accept that.
The Lib Dems were in total denial. Shirley Williams said ‘well they were
voting on the wrong thing and didn’t have the right information’ and I didn’t
get up and speak because there were too many speakers and they were too long
to be honest, but I felt like saying well, which is true, yesterday morning I
went out to look at my sheep and there was a dead ewe in the field. So I went
up to it and I kicked it, it was still dead and I didn’t call the vet and say
this ewe is not dead its alive so could you please resuscitate it. But that is
the mindset now and in fact that was exactly what Barroso said, his first
reaction when he came looking, I have to say a little bit green about the
gills after the Irish vote was announced and said ‘the Treaty is not dead, it
is alive’. Well you can make your own judgement as to whether it’s dead or
alive.
So we had several vigorous exchanges in the Lords and the Europhile lordships
don’t really appreciate UKIP at all so we were always under attack and our
amendments, although we tried to tell the truth about what Europe really means
and what it means to our democracy, it wasn’t very popular. But there were
some rather amusing moments and I want to share one with you because it
concerns Gerry Frost and Eurofacts.
One of the front bench spokesmen is called Lord Wallace of Saltaire who is
incredibly pleased with himself, in a very academic way he’s cleverer than
most people and boy does he let you know he’s cleverer than most people. And
he had terrific fun one evening, it was quite late and he brandished – I have
to say that I’m partly guilty because I gave Lord Wallace a subscription to
Eurofacts for Christmas, and I did give it to all the Liberal front bench, I
thought it would really make their Christmas holiday – and he picked it up and
said ‘oh here we’ve got Eurofacts’ with a sort of sneering grin to
Malcolm Pearson and me who were sitting up on the back benches, ‘and it
appears according to Eurofacts that seers, crystal ball gazers and
fortune tellers are going to be regulated out of existence by the European
Union, they will have to qualify under one of these directives that the UKIP
people keep on talking about, ha ha ha, isn’t that funny, isn’t it
ridiculous’ and he sat down to wild cheers from the Lib Dem benches.
Fine. Two days later what was the page three story in The Times,
‘Crystal ball gazers, fortune tellers are going to be regulated by the
EU’. That was under the EU Commercial Practices Directive and here’s the
story in Eurofacts, so if you haven’t read it I strongly advise you
to subscribe to Eurofacts and get the full story.
So we circulated the Times story together with the extract from Hansard and
circulated it to everyone in the House of Lords who took part in those debates
and that was in a way a little bit of quiet revenge which was quite enjoyable.
Another enjoyable moment was when UKIP, that was Malcolm Pearson and me, put
down an amendment which the Liberal Democrats wanted to have in the Commons –
they weren’t allowed to table it, the speaker said it was inadmissible – was a
referendum not on the Lisbon Treaty but on whether we should be in or out of
the European Union, that’s what the Lib Dems wanted... sorry I misspoke, the
‘Lib Dims’, that’s what they wanted. So we put that forward, we wanted to
help, they didn’t put it forward but we did, always ready to help and so we
put it forward, we spoke to it very movingly and of course the Conservatives
opposed it as they were bound to do so, they don’t want to be painted as get
outers, good God no, and so we voted, we divided the House on this amendment,
which is what the Liberal Democrats said they always wanted, they said they
don’t want to vote on the Lisbon Treaty, lets vote in or out, let the people
vote on that, so good, we’ll have that. And I said well I hope our noble
friends the Liberal Democrat benchers will support us, no, they sat on their
hands like sort of crows on a branch and didn’t go into lobby at all they
abstained. And when they were challenged on this by David Howell on the
Conservative front bench why they hadn’t supported their own amendment, what
was their amendment in the Commons, they said they couldn’t bring themselves
to support a UKIP amendment, some sort of contamination by being close to us
on the voting lobby or something.
So its been a difficult time in the Lords really but you have to hang onto the
fact that the Irish have voted the Treaty down, which is absolutely brilliant
and I’d like to go just a little bit wider because what is happening I think
in Parliament – and I notice it in the Lords because I spend quite a lot of
time there and particularly when there are EU regulations and directives
coming through – that Parliament, lets say Parliament broadly, its true of the
Commons and the Lords are losing power now. So much of our legislation comes
from Brussels.
Just the other day, and I don’t know if this was in Eurofacts or not,
McCreevy, the Competition Commissioner I think, said 80% of our commercial
law/legislation now comes from Brussels. That was not a scare story from
Eurofacts, it was not a scare story from The Daily Mail, it wasn’t
the Murdock press, it wasn’t anything like that, it was the Commission saying
that and I notice that all the time when I’m in the Lords. We keep on getting
things put up on the order paper, the legislation on waste electrical and
electronic directive, the driver’s hours regulations, the curd cheese
regulations. Just the other day we had a nice one, the recognition of
furrier’s qualifications regulations. I had no idea that Lords knew so much
about furriers but they did. But I had to tell them and a lot of them still
don’t realise it that you cannot do anything about it, we can debate them, we
can have a wonderful time displaying our expertise and there were two members
of the Worshipful Company of Furriers there who said what absolute rubbish
this furriers regulation was. And I said well that’s all very well but it is
rubbish, of course it is, but we cannot do anything about it, the Government
have to sign up to it, we have to agree to it, it’s a done deal, we can’t do
anything about it so there’s actually not much point debating it, you might as
well do the crossword or go and have a drink or something else.
And this is happening more and more and I think that all of you, if you don’t
already realise it, ought to know that Parliament is becoming increasingly
impotent and it is an ongoing process because more and more law is being made
in Brussels and sometimes its not even seen by Parliament, its what they call
directly applied and goes straight into British law immediately. The ones that
are applied, as I say, we can debate them but we cannot do anything about them
at all. So I’m feeling increasingly impotent there, we can pretend that we’re
doing some good there I suppose but we can’t do anything about now the
majority of law that is coming our way.
Last year the ex-President of the German Republic, Roman Herzog, made a
statement in a newspaper article that over 80% of German law was put into
place not by the German Parliament but by Brussels, by the Commission and the
Council Ministers. And really he was quite serious; he said Germany has got to
ask itself well can it genuinely call itself a proper democratic republic
anymore.
And I think we’ve got to ask ourselves the same question now in this country,
we’re losing our ability to run our show. It’s wonderful having the state
opening of Parliament but what does it really mean. I mean next week, probably
tomorrow or the day after, because the third reading is happening even as I am
speaking, the Queen will sign this Treaty, it will get the Royal Assent and
that will be that. Now the fact that it doesn’t come into force is neither
here nor there and the argument I am making that we have no longer the power
to run our own affairs in this country.
Do you remember years ago when Jacques Delors said 80% of your laws will be
made in Brussels in ten years and he was howled down and it was ‘up yours
Delors’ and all that sort of stuff went on but actually its happened so there
we are.
But ladies and gentlemen I don’t want to end on that rather pessimistic note,
this is Waterloo Day after all and Napoleon may think that he’s won the
argument, after all our petrol is sold in litres and a lot of our laws now are
expressed somehow in metres or kilometres, witness the outrageous law that was
pushed through last year that you cannot be allowed to demonstrate not within
800 yards of Parliament but within 1 kilometre, what’s that all about.
Well let’s celebrate Waterloo Day but let’s wonder whether from the grave the
victory is quite as complete as we thought then but let’s hold onto the Irish
and I think for the moment no more Irish jokes.
As I left home this evening the telephone rang and my son, who knew I was
coming up to London, asked me to meet him for a drink. I explained I had
another engagement, I said I was speaking to a meeting in the Bruges Group. He
asked the title, I said ‘well it’s Euroscepticism: Why has it
failed?’ He said ‘it sounds a bit negative to me; it could be
construed as the musings of a grumpy old man’. I think I should counter
that charge head on; I plead guilty to the charge and ask for 257 previous
offences to be taken into account.
When Robert asked me to speak this evening, it seemed to me to be an
appropriate moment to ask why euroscepticism has failed, failed that is in the
sense that we have not achieved our fundamental objective of getting the
British Government to announce its intention to leave the political structures
of the European Union. This is a goal which after all, some of us have been
pursuing man and boy for 30 years or more. True public opinion may be more
eurosceptic than it was three or four decades ago but it was never strongly in
favour of the European Union in the first place.
The fact remains that after all the millions of words that have been expended
in the eurosceptic court, after all the meetings, petitions, pamphlets,
entries on the blogs, books, speeches and after all the many demonstrations
that British interests are damaged by EU membership, there are only a dozen
out of 646 MPs in the House of Commons who are prepared to say publicly that
they are in favour of repealing the Treaty of Accession. And this, despite the
iniquities of CAP, the regulatory hyper activism of the Brussels machine, the
corruption and the systematic strangulation of democracy, not much to show
really for 35 years of political activism.
Eurosceptics such as myself like to convince ourselves that at least
intellectually we have won, we have won the argument, so much so that the
various pro-EU bodies, the publications, the think tanks, pressure groups have
faded away, closed down, their members skulking in the political undergrowth
until there is a more propitious moment to announce and advance their cause.
Well the truth of the matter is they can afford to do that, they may have lost
the argument but events have moved inextricably in the direction of ever
closer union. There has been no need for them recently to exert themselves.
The EU juggernaut has moved on regardless, the Europhile victory has been a
triumph without them having to exert themselves.
So now that the Lisbon Treaty is all but ratified, it seems to me that it’s
worth asking why this should be so and why it is that eurosceptics have not
been more successful. It’s a question that I ask myself frequently. Haven’t
they read the latest issue of Eurofax I ask myself. How can they possibly
continue to believe in an enterprise which has so dramatically failed?
What follows is an attempt at a tentative answer to that question to which
perhaps you can contribute more ideas and help to create a more comprehensive
picture. Is it our fault, by which I mean is it the fault of eurosceptics,
eurosceptic activists, eurosceptic pressure groups, think tanks, publications?
Is the fault in ourselves and not in our stars, should we have gone about the
pursuit of our goals in some other way. I am inclined to think that most of
the opportunities for expressing descent that exist in a free or freeish
society have in fact been exploited, some of them skilfully so I think we can
plead not guilty to that accusation.
Have we been paralysed by a lack of resources, handicapped possibly?
Euroscepticism has won a significant victory, the solemn pledge by all parties
to hold a referendum on the Euro was extracted by a millionaire, James
Goldsmith with bottomless pockets. Given the resources available to Government
it was bound to be a David and Goliath affair but euroscepticism has its own
millionaires, the Wheelers and the Paul Sykes as well as the Goldsmiths.
Business for Stirling was well funded as is open Europe. Lack of funds does
not go very far to explain why euroscepticism has not made greater advances
than it has. In passing it’s perhaps worth noting that while the Goldsmith
campaign was well funded and well organised and well led, its goals were
clearly defined.
There is a tendency for some eurosceptics to be coy about their objectives for
fear of being excluded from polite society. If they are open and candid they
fear that they will be so excluded. This comes ill from those who complain the
goals of their opponents; the Europhiles are being pursued by subterfuge and
deceit, so perhaps there is something to learn from that. Has the eurosceptic
cause been inward looking and fissiparous, have we argued too much with one
another and failed to cooperate and collaborate, possibly but most pressure
groups campaign bodies and the like are run by strong-minded, opinionated
people who do not easily fall into line or agree with one another.
Has UKIP, the one Party in favour of withdrawal from the EU let us down? I
believe it’s very important for there to be a credible party to which
disaffected members of other parties, particularly the Conservative Party can
threaten to switch their support if it fails to renegotiate the terms of
Britain’s membership and fails to do what is necessary if it cannot get its
way. However, UKIP plainly failed to take advantage of the support it
attracted at the last European elections, there is clearly some
dissatisfaction within the Party that it has not done more to oppose the
Lisbon Treaty and it sometimes seems to me as the recipient of telephone calls
from UKIP members that there are as many splits within the Party as there are
members. There is also something peculiar about a political party whose
greatest achievement to date is to get a dozen people elected to an
institution which it thinks Britain should not belong to but I don’t think we
can lay much blame at the door of UKIP. In its defence it can be said that it
is trying to do the right thing, its heart is in the right place even if its
strategic brain is not always fully engaged.
Well is it the force of the public, it has always been a tenant of Thatcherism
and I speak as an unreconstructed Thatcherite, that the public is sounder in
its instincts than are the intellectuals and the elites. Countless opinion
polls show that the public does not like the EU. A recent poll commissioned by
Global Vision asked whether if Britain sought to negotiate a new looser
relationship with the EU but the rest of the EU objected, 57% said Britain
should leave the EU under these circumstances while only a third, 33% said
Britain should stay in. So the public is more or less okay. It has to be
acknowledged however that the EU is seldom at the top of the public’s list of
priorities and it’s proved very difficult indeed to get large numbers of
people to publicly demonstrate their views on this subject.
Lord Pearson, whom I greatly admire, said recently that you could get a
million people out in the street today. I think reality is that you struggle
to get 250. The British public may indeed be slow and obtuse in recognising
its interests in this matter. There is however I think one partial explanation
for its apparent apathy, the public has been lied to over the EU so frequently
that it believes that it has been effectively disenfranchised in this matter
as it has indeed on the issue of immigration and that nothing it says or does
will make any difference at all. No doubt Europe’s reaction to recent events
in Ireland will have strengthened that view.
Moreover, public opinion needs to be led; motivated, inspired and political
leadership has been in short supply. I was abroad when David Davis resigned
over 42 days but I am told that it resulted in a wave of public support which
took members of the opinion forming elite by surprise. Nick Robinson of the
BBC who initially described the resignation as being absurd publicly
acknowledged the strength of public feeling on the matter.
Now I don’t underestimate the danger that we are sleepwalking into a
surveillance society but it seems to me that the European project, which
effectively sounds the death knell for another project, that of
self-government project which began in these islands would have been a much
better issue to resign over. Had David Davis approached that issue as Keith
Joseph when rejecting the post-war middle of the road economic and political
consensus during the 1970s did, combining passion with intellectual rigour,
frankly admitting his own and his party’s errors, I believe he would have
shaken the political establishment to its foundations.
So I’m not inclined to blame the public. Should we blame the Tories, most
certainly, I think we should do that on every available occasion. But it seems
to me that the failure the Conservative betrayal – that’s not a word I like
it’s a sort of socialist word, it’s the word of ideologs but its the best word
I can find in the circumstances – the failure of the Conservative Party in
this regard is part of a much larger betrayal, the betrayal of the national
interests by Britain’s political, cultural and education elites who came to
regard the notion of national interest as passé or even immoral. In their
judgement Britain was small, jaded, unexciting, they thought they could have a
slice of the action in something bigger, more modern, more exciting.
I think in some ways this failure of our elites is comparable to that during
the 90s when members of the British political establishment opted for
appeasement rather than rearmament. But there’s a difference of course, when
appeasement proved not to work many backed rearmament and Churchill. When the
EU was shown to fail or at least not to live up to expectations there was no
comparable switch of allegiance.
For some of course the EU is pretty much what they expected it to be and are
presumably happy with the results, the likes of Ken Clarke for example, but I
think we are talking a fairly small number, I think its true that many who
once were strong supporters of the EU are now disillusioned but there has been
very little in the way of recanting or acknowledgement of error. The political
elite prefer to ignore the direction and implications of the European project
as much as possible because they feel somewhat guilty about it and are aware
that they have been party to political developments which have not turned out
well and which have been obscured by a cloak of deceit. Europe is the elephant
in the room which all but a few ignore. The problem for them is that the
elephant is getting bigger and more troublesome.
The attitudes which I have described explain why among the political class
there is a readiness to accept responsibility for problems when things go
wrong, problems that originated in Brussels. Normally you can take it for
granted that politicians will shift the blame to any available person, even to
the weather or to sporting failures. So what is taking place is of course very
unusual.
On an almost daily basis it is possible to observe Ministers taking
responsibility for problems, the chaos in the Post Office for example or the
chaotic introduction of the absurd and the whole unnecessary Home Improvement
Packs; they’re just two examples of a long list which began life in the EU.
Extraordinarily the age old cry of ‘it’s not our fault’ has been replaced by
‘yes it is our fault’. This is not of course an honest admission of guilt but
a thoroughly dishonest attempt to conceal a greater fault that of transferring
powers to an unaccountable and unpopular EU institution while pretending that
you were doing something else, it could be modernising, it could be responding
to the needs of enlargement or simply tidying up to use a phrase favoured by
Jack Straw. The underlying strategy is analogous to that of a criminal who
pleads guilty to a minor charge in order to escape a much more serious one.
Many of the people I am talking about describe themselves as eurosceptic but
are embarrassed by what they have signed up to and do not like to acknowledge
the huge political and economic capital that has been invested in a project
which is becoming less popular and harder than ever to justify.
Now eurosceptics denounce particular aspects of the EU, the democratic deficit
for example, the iniquities of the CAP, the tendency of the EU to over
regulate, the danger that in creating an autonomous defence capability we will
wreck NATO, there are many such people will agree. They say the same things
themselves, particularly at moments such as now when the EU is getting
particularly bad press but they curiously refuse to move on from analysis of
the EU’s defects to a conclusion that we would be better off out or even to a
conclusion that we should seriously explore that possibility and the means of
doing so. What is it that prevents moving to a conclusion which many in this
room would seem obvious and right?
I think the explanation is that too much capital has been invested in this
project to permit candour. Like a gambler who frittered away his family
fortune the calculation of what has been lost is too painful even for those
who have gone along with the project rather than enthusiastically endorsing it
and of course such omissions inevitably involved deteriorating relations or
perhaps ruptures in relations with friends, allies, political parties, its not
an easy thing to do.
Its possible to mention scores of MPs, distinguished journalists and
broadcasters who fall into this category and one also observes the emergence
of the younger generation which has no reason at all to feel guilty for
mistakes made in the 70s, 80s or 90s but has come to recognise that it has
little to gain in terms of career advancement if it raises difficult matters
relating to the EU. I note the Policy Exchange which is full of bright young
people, now the biggest political think tank in Britain in terms of funding
employing around 45 people and the one closest to David Cameron does not
include Europe in its published list of priorities and has published only one
paper on EU matters and that on the implications of enlargement. Curious, I
would have thought as Chairman, Charles Moore would certainly describe himself
as a eurosceptic as would its Director Anthony Browne. Its publications team
with good ideas about policy measures the Tories will introduce but it seems
curiously uninterested in the question of how such measures are going to be
introduced when as is now the case, around maybe 80% of our laws and many of
our policies are made in Brussels.
As you are probably aware the Conservative Party says that it wishes to
reclaim control over employment and social policy. If it is serious about this
it will need to do some serious work. I can’t see any evidence this is being
done at the Policy Exchange or anywhere else for that matter.
Although rare, it is not unknown for political errors to be acknowledged. In
the 20s and 30s young intellectuals admitted to having been wrong about
communism. A good number of these became rabid anti-communists. Why are there
not more examples of European federalists making similar intellectual U-turns?
As I say its not an easy thing to do, its not just a question of admitting
that you’re wrong, that you backed a system that sucked out the substance of
democratic British institutions that resulted in the passage of hundreds of
laws which meet our needs if at all very poorly, many of which were evidently
absurd and unnecessary, a system which has cost the tax payer billions, again
with very little in return, which has created a method of agricultural
support, which is probably the most inhumane and inefficient in history.
To acknowledge the full enormity of the harm that has been done of course you
also have to admit if you’re honest, that all of this has been done
deceitfully by people who sometimes appear to have also deceived themselves.
There has always been a furtive quality about British collaboration in the
European project and it is this quality which makes it particularly hard for
our political elites to admit error since it amounts to an admission of moral
weakness as well as flawed political judgement. This it seems to me is what
euroscepticism is up against.
Well what of the future? That consummate eurosceptic blogger Richard North,
whose partner Helen Szamuely is here this evening, recently concluded that
euroscepticism had indeed failed, indeed it was quite dead. I disagree, I
think its defined as a general aversion to the affairs of the European Union,
I think its more evasive than it has ever been, its time to regroup, to raise
our game. The political elites in this country who are responsible for our
present difficulties are weaker and less confident than ever and they are
conscious of the huge and still growing gulf in attitudes which separates them
from the electorate.
Moreover there are signs that the tectonic plates are shifting, that Britain
is going through one of those periods reflected not only in the opinion polls
but in other manifestations too in which the prevailing consensus is likely to
be challenged under the impact of events, particularly I think economic
events. The Chancellor has recently been writing to José Manuel Barroso,
Nicolas Sarkozy, Angela Merkel complaining about the impact of the CAP on food
prices, he’s stopped taking the rap. It’s not of course that he’d expect Mrs
Merkel or Mr Sarkozy to take a blind bit of notice; he’s simply trying to
escape responsibility for decisions which originated in the EU. We may expect
more of the same as the Government loses the plot and cannot work out whether
its likely to be damned more as a result of admitting that the EU was behind
so many unpopular measures or not.
Now I have no doubt that in the long run the EU edifice will implode under the
impact of its own contradictions, though despite the present lack of political
leadership I remain hopeful that Britain will have chosen to chart its own
course by then. My gut instinct is it will take one more twist of the
integrationist ratchet for British public opinion to become angrier and more
assertive and for euroscepticism to become more hard line. At that time we may
expect milk and water eurosceptics to become 100% proof eurosceptics and more
senior politicians to offer a semblance of leadership if only to avoid being
left behind in the rush. There is still all to play for, we have failed so far
but we may yet succeed.
Saturday, 6th November 2010, 10.30am -
6.15pm Exit Strategy
Norman Tebbit and the Czech President Speak Out Against EU
Centralisation Dinner in the Presence of Baroness Thatcher Václav Klaus
The Rt. Hon Lord Tebbit of Chingford, CH
The Rt Hon. Baroness Thatcher LG, OM, FRS
Saturday, 17th November 2007 2007 Conference Gerard Batten MEP
Christopher Booker
Bernard Connolly
Dr Anthony Coughlan
Marc Glendenning
Roger Helmer MEP
Martin Howe QC
Ruth Lea
Cllr Steve Radford
The Rt Hon. John Redwood MP
Ignoring the French Non and the Dutch Nee the EU takes more
powers Conference: Integration marching on Christopher Booker
Ruth Lea
Professor Kenneth Minogue
The suggestion that EU Constitution was just "tidying
up" is a silly phrase best forgotten Wednesday, 19th May 2004 Gisela Stuart MP
The European Union - an Unionist/Ulster perspective and Tax
harmonisation and EU Competition policy Wednesday, 5th May 2004 Jeffrey Donaldson MP
Carl Mortishead
Bruges Group International Conference Alternatives to the EU Dr Anthony Coughlan
Professor Christie Davies
Margit Gennser
Roger Helmer MEP
Dr Brian Hindley
Dr John Hulsman
HE the Rt Hon. Don McKinnon
Professor Ivar Raig
Dr Helen Szamuely
Honorary President: The Rt Hon. the Baroness Thatcher of
Kesteven LG, OM, FRS Vice-President: The Rt Hon. the Lord Lamont of Lerwick,
Chairman: Barry Legg Director: Robert Oulds MA, Head of
Research: Dr Helen Szamuely, Washington D.C.
Representative: John O'Sullivan CBE Founder Chairman: Lord Harris of High Cross,
Former Chairmen: Dr Brian Hindley, Dr Martin Holmes &
Professor Kenneth Minogue